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Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:30 pm ]
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Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:31 pm ]
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It's really not my favorite portait of Marie-Thérèse Charlotte!!!! :P :P :roll:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:36 pm ]
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The duchess of Angoulème was not very photogenic I agree! :lol:

It's also for that I hope that she was not Mrs Royale :wink:

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:36 pm ]
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No, Jules ! She seems so severe ! And look at her posture ! But she has so beautiful blue eyes...

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:44 pm ]
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Yes...I don't like her nose, it makes her not very photogenic :lol: :lol:

Author:  Aurora [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:42 pm ]
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Thank you Jules, for this picture. I have never seen it, but I think it really portrays Madame Royale.
She looks like having all the post-traumatic symptoms. If only we could give her the love and warmth of her father and mother back!
I wish also that she could have an understanding and lovable husband, not le Duc de Angouleme, and many happy children to be proud of.

Author:  Therese [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:18 pm ]
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Who is the artist? The princess is shown visiting a hospital. They say she was more often to be found visiting the sick in the hospitals than at the opera.

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:31 pm ]
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It was painted by Guillaume-Joseph Roques, while she was in Toulouse

Author:  Therese [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:33 pm ]
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Thanks! I think she was fairly well-received in Toulouse.

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:41 pm ]
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Many people reproached The Duchess of Angoulème for getting dressed with very simple and not very elegant dresses like the English style .
And indeed in this painting she wears a very simple dress :wink:
But I recognize that the blue color and the robe/coiffure unit gives a certain style :D

Author:  Therese [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:42 pm ]
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Aurora wrote:
Thank you Jules, for this picture. I have never seen it, but I think it really portrays Madame Royale.
She looks like having all the post-traumatic symptoms. If only we could give her the love and warmth of her father and mother back!
I wish also that she could have an understanding and lovable husband, not le Duc de Angouleme, and many happy children to be proud of.


Yes, dear Aurora. Just by looking at her one can see the post-traumatic stress which she lived with her entire life. The coldness and stiffness of a young girl, alone in prison for a year, with no company but rude jailers whom she feared might rape her at any moment. A young girl who had seen heads on pikes and heard her beloved parents insulted in the most vile way. And she had heard her little brother say obscene things about her mother - things which were beyond her comprehension.

She never had the love she lost when her parents and aunt and brother were taken from her, not really until her niece and nephew were born. She adored those two children and was like a second mother to them, and loving them brought her a great deal of healing....

Author:  Therese [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:45 pm ]
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Louis-Charles wrote:
Many people reproached The Duchess of Angoulème for getting dressed with very simple and not very elegant dresses like the English style .
And indeed in this painting she wears a very simple dress :wink:
But I recognize that the blue color and the robe/coiffure unit gives a certain style :D


Yes, she dressed simply, remembering how her mother was accused of extravagance. And then people accused Therese of not spending more money on clothes!! She wore the clothes she had from England, not wanting to spend money on new things when her old things were serviceable. But Madame de Boigne did prevail upon her to acquire some French court gowns.

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:58 pm ]
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Therese wrote

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Yes, she dressed simply, remembering how her mother was accused of extravagance


Indeed Therese!
And some also reproached Marie-Antoinette for wearing too simple dresses unworthy of a Queen, when she put much "Robe en gaulle": the scandal with the portrait "A la rose" in 1783 shows that...
The duchess of angoulème underwent the same thing :?

Author:  Therese [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:13 pm ]
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Yes, Louis-Charles, it was the same thing. Which is why I do not believe that ANYTHING Marie-Antoinette did brought on the Revolution. Her daughter was so careful to be a model princess, appearing often in public, although she was often unsmiling in crowds due to bad memories of the mob. She dressed simply in private but grandly when the occasion demanded. She did not flirt or gamble and her reputation was above reproach. She DEVOTED herself to the poor and sick, and to the Church. But yet another Revolution came, because the people who wanted political change smeared Therese the same way they did her mother....

Author:  Arietta [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:59 pm ]
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Thanks for sharing that portrait! I've always wondered what she looked like in her adult years.

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