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Author:  Délicate fleur [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:51 am ]
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For a beginner I would suggest "Marie Antoinette" by Desmond Seward and "Marie Antoinette: The Journey". Both are well researched and written, apart from Fraser's assertion that Fersen and Antoinette were lovers. Unfortunately, I don't think there has ever been a book written about La Lamballe.

Author:  Dame de Qualite [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:19 am ]
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Thank you. I have read Fraser's Biography of the Queen. However, I have not read Seward's I will read it soon. I am not a big fan of Fraser's book, I must say. I have read Lever and Sweig as well. I enjoyed those thoroughly.

Alas, there are no books that I have found on Lamballe. Her memoirs, however, provide an excellent climpse into who she was.

Author:  Délicate fleur [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:39 am ]
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Dame de Qualite wrote:
Thank you. I have read Fraser's Biography of the Queen. However, I have not read Seward's I will read it soon. I am not a big fan of Fraser's book, I must say. I have read Lever and Sweig as well. I enjoyed those thoroughly

Lever uses doubtful sources from Alma Söderjhelm and Zweig used outdated Freudian analysis on Antoinette that doesn't suit. So Fraser isn't so different from these, she borrows from Zweig.

Author:  Dame de Qualite [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:42 am ]
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Alas, we may never have a completely factual book. The closest, I think, that we have gotten is the different memoirs written and even those have some biases. The Memoirs of Lamballe seem to me the closest to the actual person of Marie Antoinette. I only wished we could have been there.

Author:  Rosieface [ Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:09 am ]
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Délicate fleur wrote:
For a beginner I would suggest "Marie Antoinette" by Desmond Seward and "Marie Antoinette: The Journey". Both are well researched and written, apart from Fraser's assertion that Fersen and Antoinette were lovers. Unfortunately, I don't think there has ever been a book written about La Lamballe.

I have read Fraser's book and thought it was quite good. I didn't know that Seward had written a bio for MA; I am excited to find that out because he is one of my favorite biographers. I will have to pick that up post-haste.

Author:  Rosalie [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:35 pm ]
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Yes, I also liked Fraser's book very much. I think one can disagree about some points of her reconstructions (which is normal, in a history book), but the book is worthy of appreciation. It gives a good survey of the most important events of her life, and complex account of MA's character, from which we can have an idea of the motives underlying her behaviour on different periods of her life. I think her psychology is well delineated, differently from what I found in Levr's book (or at least in the English translation and abridgement of the same). I would recommend it to someone wishing to gain a general introduction to this fascinating woman.

Author:  reine [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:36 pm ]
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Délicate fleur wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't think there has ever been a book written about La Lamballe.


I found one :blob7:

http://www.amazon.com/Madame-Lamballe-D ... 0543773132

reine :angel6:

Author:  Marcel Champney [ Sat May 23, 2009 1:16 pm ]
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I just bought this book, but I'm trying to finish Abundance first (along with a David Sedaris book). I have so much to read right now.

Author:  the delicate one [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:44 am ]
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Oooooooh! I love Abundance!!!! I can't believe that someone can write a histoical fiction novel that well. Sena Jeter Naslund is just a fantastic author. What do you think of it so far? I'm also beginning to read the Private Life, by Madame Campan, again, and it is very interesting. The only problem I have is keeping all the people straight. Sometimes she uses their titles, and sometimes she uses their actual names, which makes it seem like there are more people than there actually are. :)

Author:  jimcheval [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:55 pm ]
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There are various works out there on the princess de Lamballe:

http://books.google.com/books?q=intitle%3Alamballe&btnG=Search+Books

But I'd be cautious about any memoirs. She wasn't a major figure in her own lifetime and I doubt she had the chance to write any before being savagely slaughtered during the Revolution.

One book of original sources I have on the Revolution includes a man's testimony denying that he had carried her genitals around on a pike after her killing. Unfortunately, if you've read some of the accounts of mob killings at the time, his denial rings false.

'Abundance' is wonderful and got dismayingly short shrift in the NY Times reviews. She has to pick and choose her incidents (as I recall she doesn't cover the tragic deaths that occurred in a frenzy just after their marriage), but the book flows well and doesn't seem to distort any major facts, so far as I can remember. Having worked on a novel myself where the main character (SPOILER ALERT!!!) gets beheaded, I was impressed with how she managed to carry a first-person narrative all the way up to that point, and do so believably.

Author:  grace [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:55 pm ]
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Hi,

I've read Campan's book and I think it's great because it really sets the scene of what the French court was like but it doesn't really tell you about her friendships I don't think. It's more about the politics of the time and more about who hated her. There's not a lot in Campan about when she first went to France. It's more about the Revolution.

Her secret letters though tell you about her friendships - not so much her letters as Mercy's letters to her mother about her. Her letters deny everything that Mercy tells her mother - it's quite funny to read them, because Marie Antoinette didn't know that Mercy was telling her mother everything, so she just denied everything.

The letters talk about her friends duchess Polignac and princess Lamballe. They talk about her giving their relatives money and jobs and how the French courtiers and aristocracy hated her because she gave all the best positions to her friends and their friends.

If you want to read about her friends read the new translation of her letters by Macleod 'There were three of us in the relationship - the secret letters of Marie Antoinette.' Amazon's got it and I've just finished reading it and I'm desperate for others to read it and tell me what they think.

Author:  silverstar [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:25 am ]
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quote Dame

Alas, there are no books that I have found on Lamballe. Her memoirs, however, provide an excellent climpse into who she was.

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are they anywhere on line ?

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