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Author:  Monsieur Royale [ Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:08 am ]
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Yes none of the book stores in my area were selling it...Of Corse I haven't looked it up since then

Author:  melly [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:44 am ]
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I have found a review of Evelyne Lever's book. The reviere is very angry about the abridgement and rightfully so.

I would ask everyone interested in this book, and the author to read this (extensive) review.



http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/ ... .htm#basic

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:34 am ]
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Evelyne Lever is considered the best specialist of Marie-Antoinette. However, Simone Bertiere goes far deeper into her psychological anlyse, in my opinion. Philippe Delorme is also very interesting. Both authors take into account the Giraut de Coursac's researchs, while Mme Lever does not. That's why her view on the queen is still post-zweigian !

Author:  ohappydagger [ Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:09 pm ]
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melly wrote:
I have found a review of Evelyne Lever's book. The reviere is very angry about the abridgement and rightfully so.

I would ask everyone interested in this book, and the author to read this (extensive) review.



http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/ ... .htm#basic


I've recently purchased this biography, thanks for the review.

Author:  Princesse Amelie [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:26 am ]
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I'm reading it right now, and I'm finding that I don't like it much... I mean, Lever does not, at least in the way she characterizes her, seem to have a very high opinion of La Reine... and there's the troublesome bit about her favoritism of Lauzun, and of course the traditional Fersen liaison. The picture of the Queen that Lever paints would almost lead one to believe that she actually said "let them eat cake." I guess I just have such a high opinion of the Queen that I don't want to believe bad things about her, but is there really that much evidence pointing to her empty-headedness and tendency to have affairs (or at least show ridiculous amounts of favoritism)? Or did Lever cite false sources or take things out of context? I read Fraser's biography, and it didn't portray the Queen in that light, at least not consistently like Lever. Granted, I haven't finished the book yet, but I don't think that the tone is going to change much between now and the end.

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:36 am ]
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Fraser is English, so, less biased about the French revolution than French historians ! :roll:

Author:  Gabrielle de Polastron [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:01 pm ]
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I, too, found this book a little harsh. I believe there is a point in the book where Lever admits that Antoinette ought to have been killed, if I'm not mistaken. I wish I had it in front of me.

I was using it as a source for a paper I wrote, but clearly omitted that particular segment, :wink:

Author:  york74 [ Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:48 am ]
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Regardin Lever...is her 2004 book on the necklace affair "L'affaire du Collier" worth reading? Pim...I'm sure you read it...

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:36 am ]
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This book is quite complicated, dear York, but, actually, it is quite complete too ! It is a very interesting book... but it does not makes this affair clearer ! I also recommand Louis Hastier's book on the same matter. Both of them are very deep and accurate analysis. Gosh... how complicated this necklace thing is ! :shock:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:26 pm ]
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It's the second book that I read...it's complex indeed but very interesting :D

Author:  Rosalie [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:54 am ]
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I had not read this thread before, so I read the review of "The last queen of France" just now.
Can I express my disappointment? :| Actually I thought the Enlish version was a bit too quick on some points, but I couldn' imagine it was so drastically abridged!
Anyway, I find MA doesn't turn out very well in that book, or at st in its firstpart. I've been quite annoyed, because it looks like the author desn't try to understand the reasons of her behaviour, so that you have the impression MA was just a light and frivolous woman in her youth...then in the second part there's quite a sudden change,and she seems more of a victim. So in the end you don't have a clear idea of who MA was, after all...
I don't know whether the French (original) edition is different...maybe it is, as it's much longer!
And what this thing whith Lauzun? :shock:

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:36 pm ]
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I have almost the same impression, dear Rosalie. And this thing with Lauzun... :roll: Well... Evelyne Lever must be the last scholar in the world who still believe that this ridiculous story Lauzun reports already happened ! :lol:

Author:  Madame Vigée-Le Brun [ Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:17 am ]
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Lauzun...? I am afraid I do not know this story, Pimprenelle. :oops:

Author:  Délicate fleur [ Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:51 am ]
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You can read about the roué in p.169-70 of Fraser's biography.

Author:  Rosalie [ Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:01 pm ]
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It seems that Lauzun was a young charming and brilliant man and the queen liked his company; so there were rumours that he was her favourite, and that she had a particular attraction for him. He left a (unbelievable, according to me) report regarding the last meeting with the queen before he had to go away from Versailles; in that occasion, according to his words, the queen would cry begging him not to leave her and throwing herself into his arms.
Obviously it has all the appaearance of a ridiculous story made up by the libertine Lauzun to boast his conquest. Of course MA was caring and loving with her friends, so it can be that she expressed her sorrow for the departure of a friend (I'm just guessing), but can you figure her, the Queen of France, openly flirting and then crying in Lauzun's arms?!?!? :shock:

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