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Hello everybody,

I´m new here so i hope this is the correct place to post this question.
I´ve just ordered some books and should be so grateful if you would share your opinion of them, if possible. The books are:

-Un Versailles Unconnu, by Henry Racinais.
-The Princess de Lamballe, by Francis Montefiore.
-The Trianon of Marie Antoinette, by Pierre de Nolhac.
-Recollections of Léonard, Hairdresser to Queen Marie Antoinette.
-The Ruin of a Princess, by the Douchesse D´Angouleme and Katharine Prescott.
-Secret Memoirs of Princess Lamballe: Her Confidential Relations With Marie Antoinette.

Thanks in advance!

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Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:52 pm
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Welcome Mique! :D

I read "The Trianon of Marie Antoinette", by Pierre de Nolhac, in french.
I very liked this book, because of all the precisions about Trianon which are given by Nolhac : its originies, its construction, its history, its evolutions, its architects, its garden, and its embellissement under Marie-Antoinette. :D

I did not know this book : "The Ruin of a Princess", by the Douchesse D´Angouleme and Katharine Prescott...it was really writen by the Duchesse of Angouleme? :shock: It's her memories?

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The same as Chou-Charles, dear Antonio. I enjoyed Nolhac's book for its precision.

I haven't read Leonard's and Lamballe's memoirs, but I think both are apocryphal.

I'd be interested in this book about princess de Lamballe by Montefiore. Would you please make a review for us when you have finished it ?

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WOW, express speed answer!

Thanks a lot for your kind welcome :D Louis Charles and Pimprenelle, and for your comments on the books as well.

The Ruin of a Princess is available for free on the web. Here you have the link, you can read the whole book: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/ ... ncess.html

And of course, i shall be much pleased to tell about the Montefiori book as soon as i receive it and read it. It´s from the 1900s, so i´m not too sure about its content. I tend to think books on this subject from the late 19 and early 20 centuries are a bit of a hagiography(i don´t know the exact word but hope you get the meaning). New studies and biographies use to have more objective and through information, in general...

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I thought that "The Ruin of a Princess" was also about Madame Elisabeth. It has many interesting quotations from original letters and memoirs.

I highly recommend Pierre de Nolhac's works.

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You're Welcome Mique! :D

And thak you for the link! I confirm that I did not know this book...and you're right Therese there are Elisabeth's letters too!
It seems to be very interesting!

Ah...if it could have been translated in french... :x

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Thanks for the link, dear Antonio !

You are right, many books during and after the restauration tend to be hagiographies. And, after all, some still are... :roll:

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There is nothing wrong with hagiography when the persons in question, Louis XVI, Marie-Antoinette, and Madame Elisabeth, were indeed martyrs to the principles and beliefs to which they adhered. That is not to ignore their very real failings, faults, mistakes, disagreements. Saints are not without human faults but in the realities of their humanity they overcame terrible trials with faith, hope and charity.

I prefer to see "hagiographies" rather than see Louis portrayed as an imbecile, Antoinette portrayed as a whore, and Madame Elisabeth ignored completely.

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Indeed, dear Therese. But, when your purpose is to find a character through biographies, you have to make the balance, then. For instance, the Goncourt brothers', Chalon's book about Marie Antoinette or Belaiche Daninos' recent one are too "hagiographics".

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Pimprenelle wrote:
Indeed, dear Therese. But, when your purpose is to find a character through biographies, you have to make the balance, then. For instance, the Goncourt brothers', Chalon's book about Marie Antoinette or Belaiche Daninos' recent one are too "hagiographics".


Yes, that is why I have found our discussions here, in which we compare our research of the various biographies and sources, to be very helpful in finding out what really did happen. Fabricated stories of piety do not do justice to the true heroism and sincere convictions of the royal martyrs. It is good to know what is true and what is false, as best as we can discern.

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I completely agree with you, dear !

When we know that even Provence published memoirs in which he intended to "wash" Marie Antoinette's reputation... after having terrible pamphlets been made !

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Oh, yes, Provence's memoirs. The faithful and heartbroken brother/brother-in-law, bearing his soul :roll: :roll: ...it makes me sick.... :shock:

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Ah Provence... he was also as "faux-cul" (I do not know the English word..."lying" more politely :lol: ) as his cousin the Duke of Orleans :lol:

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Yes, Provence and Orleans did whatever they could to weaken Louis XVI's prestige, since both wanted the throne for themselves.

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Larmes de crocodile... Crocodile's tears...

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