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oh, I didn't know that. What are the main ways of authenticating things? Handwriting analysis?

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These two articles explain it.


http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/0 ... art-2.html

http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/0 ... art-3.html

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Those are interesting - it was actually one of the letters quoted in there as being false that I was thinking of. Whose blog is it, however? It's always difficult when being presented with differing points of view to know which to trust and how reliable the sources used by each are. Which primary biographers discount the Fersen affair? (I can think of one I read which left it neutral though unfortunately I can't remember the author. They suggested that the friendship was romantic but that it was unknown whether it was consummated).

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It is from the blog of author Elena Maria Vidal. Here is a list of what different authors think of the Fersen affair. I would say that the primary biographers who discount the Fersen affair are Bertiere, Delorme, Chalon, Belloc, De Nolhac, the Coursacs, Webster, Seward and Croker (not all mentioned on the list below.)

http://www.amazon.com/Marie-Antoinette- ... 97-9239925

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Fraser talks about the 'style' of friendship during those times as influenced by Rousseau. 'Flowers and Hearts'. Of the friendship between M.A. and Lamballe, she refers to the style of Rousseau's La Nouvelle Heloise. (p. 91-92) in The Journey. She describes this lovely affection as " palpitatingly sensitive rather than passionately sensual". I believe this well describes the style that M.A. and her friends had at the time when addressing each other, and probably applies very well to letters and exchanges with Fersen, as well.


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Yes, that is an accurate description.

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Thanks Theresa, that list looks like it will be very interesting and useful. I will plough through it this weekend.

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Here is a guide by the same author, kind of an anthology:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltgu ... 47-7632956

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Some of the excerpts of Antoinette's letters to Fersen that I've seen seem quite intimate although that might just be, as others have said, that it was the fashion of the court at the time to address friends in a very extravagent fashion.


Which excerpts, Moose ? I read Marie Antoinette's correspondence recently published, and found nothing intimate in her letters adressed to Fersen. These messages are quite political.

Her letters to her friends Mme de Polignac, Mme de Fitz-James or the princesses de Hesse-Darmstadt are far more sentimental and intimate.

Unfortunately, there are no letter to Mme de Lamballe. I'm afraid most of them could be apocryphal.

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