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Caroline of Naples was known as the Duchesse de Berry from the time of her marriage to Berry in 1817. Berry was killed in Feb 1820 and their son Henri was born in sept 1820. Their country home was Rosny, where Caroline had a special chapel devoted to Berry's memory. In the 1830's, after her secret marriage, adventure in Brittany and pregnancy, she was stripped by Charles X of her royal title and was styled "Comtesse de Rosny." She had also called herself Comtesse de Rosny when exiled, just as Marie-Therese called herself "Comtesse de Marne." Her second husband, Conte Ettore de Luchesi-Palli was a scion of one the first families of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. He was also known as Prince of Campofranco, and later as Duke della Grazia. Caroline shared her husband's titles.

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I've deleted the link because it was to big! :?

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Wow!! Looks real to me! Yes, Caroline was a patroness of the arts and of the French industries, such as fine furniture, porcelain and crystal, just like her great-aunt, Marie-Antoinette.

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I read that it was Caroline that iniciated the fashion of swimming on the sea, in Dieppe, in the 1820's...I'm just imagining the old ladys of the pre-revolutionary-epoch seeing Caroline doing this!

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Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:04 pm
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Yes, indeed, Caroline introduced sea-bathing to high society and it was considered quite scandalous. She also enjoyed window shopping and they named one of the first street-cars after her.

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This portait is in the Château de Chambord, how was bougth to the one year old Comte de Chambord, son of Caroline, in 1821.

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I've discovered a lady-in-waiting of Caroline, the Duchesse de Gontaut:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Jose ... de_Gontaut

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Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:50 am
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Actually, I think the above picture is supposed to be the birth of Henri, Duc de Bordeaux, Comte de Chambord, which took place of the fete de Saint-Michel, 29 Sept 1820 at the Tuileries. Louis XVIII is giving a speech, while the Duchesse d'Angouleme looks on in wonder. (She came to see Henri as the son she never had.) Henri was called the "miracle child" since he was born seven months after his father was stabbed at the opera.

Josephine de Montaut-Navailles, Duchesse de Gontaut, became the governess of Henri and his sister Louise. She was realted to Madame de Polignac and the Polastrons, and was a friend of Charles X. I have her two volume memoirs; they are fascinating and informative.

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Are there some quotes from Caroline? And has she written memoirs or letters that are available? And one more question :oops: , are there any romance or a play about her life?

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No memoirs that I am aware of, but Baroness Orczy of the "Scarlet Pimprenelle" fame wrote a bio of her, as did Andre Castelot. Imbert de Saint-Amand's "The Duchesse de Berry and the Court of Charles X" is loaded with intimate details of court life.

When her first husband was killed at the opera, Caroline said, "I have lost the only person in the world who can make me happy."

When she was taken prisoner after almost being burned alive, Caroline said, "I have done what a mother could to regain the inheritance of her son." Brave, foolish, fiesty, headstrong, loveable Caroline, she would not give up.

As I said above, Caroline's adventures and her romance with the Italian count is retold in the novel "Madame Royale" by Elena Maria Vidal. Most of it is factual, even the scene where Caroline tries to go to Paris with two pistols in her belt during the July Revolution, and Marie-Therese slaps her to keep her from going - all true.

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When Caroline was arrested:

- Général, lui dit-elle, je me rends à vous, et me remets à votre loyauté.
- Madame, répondit le général, Votre Altesse est sous la sauvegarde de l'honneur français.

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Did Caroline married in Notre-Dame de Paris or at the Palais d'Élysée?

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She was married at Notre Dame de Paris wearing a coronet that had belonged to Marie-Antoinette.

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Jules de Polignac wrote:
When Caroline was arrested:

- Général, lui dit-elle, je me rends à vous, et me remets à votre loyauté.
- Madame, répondit le général, Votre Altesse est sous la sauvegarde de l'honneur français.


And also, she said, "Monsieur, if you had not tried to roast me St Laurence-style, you would not have me on your arm right now."

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