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Merci, chère Victoire-Adelaide, c'est très interessant.
Wasn't it Nancy Mitford (or else) in her book of Mme de Pompadour, who said this statement: If Mme Henriette and duke of Orléans would have been married to each other, the horrible Philippe-Egalité would never haver been born...

What do you think about the rumours (at least in Joan Haslip's MA bio, elsewhere also) of a child delivered by Mme Adelaide? And he would have been later then Louis de Narbonne? Some even said very nasty that he ressembled the King.

Do you have an opinion about Monsieur Caron de Beaumarchais, who taught harp-playing to Les Tantes. Was he fascinated by them, did he spread his new ideas?


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Aurora wrote:
What do you think about the rumours of a child delivered by Mme Adelaide? And he would have been then Louis de Narbonne?


To my mind, there were nasty rumours. Some bad people said that Madame Adélaïde had had a child with her father! And they also said that the child had been adopted by the countess de Narbonne, the "dame d'honneur" of Adélaïde. But Madame Adélaïde was pious, and she stayed as a virgin.

There were also some rumours of a relationship between Madame Henriette and her father, and between Mesdames and their brother. But that was only slanders. In Versailles, a lot of people were corrupted and they amused themselves when they said this horrible things.

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Thank you, Victoire-Adelaide.
Quel passe-temps à Versailles! (I mean, to spread all these rumours)


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Very interesting! I have heard of some of the terrible rumors. The Mesdames Tantes were pious and chaste like their mother. Sadly, Louis XV's preference for young girls may have fed the ugly lies! :cry:

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Louis-Philippe d'Orléans (1725 - 1785) was married with Louise-Henriette de Bourbon-Conti, because she had educated in a convent, and the duke's father thought that she was virtuous. But she was shameless and outrageous! However, the duke became also a libertine!


So, is she the Duchesse de Chartres of Coppola's movie?

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Jules de Polignac wrote:
So, is she the Duchesse de Chartres of Coppola's movie?


No, because Louise-Henriette de Bourbon-Conti died in 1759, because she was too debauched and corrupted. The second wife of the duke was his mistress, Madame de Montesson. But she wasn't a great person, she had a small station. When the duke died, she couldn't bear the name "duchesse douairière d'Orléans". She can't be the duchess de Chartres in Coppola's film.

In the Coppola's movie, the duchess de Chartres is invented. In 1770, the duchess de Chartres was Louise-Adélaïde de Bourbon-Penthièvre, and she was 17! In the movie, Aurore Clément (the duchess) is 60!

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Aoh ? Bon, on n'est plus à ça près ! :lol:

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Aoh ? Bon, on n'est plus à ça près ! :lol:


:lol: C'est sûr, s'il n'y avait que ça... :!: :evil: :roll:

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An article about Madame Louise.


http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2006/1 ... -aunt.html

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Thank you my dear! :D

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You are welcome, V-A!

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Wow, your knowledge of The Royal Aunts is very impressive!

You say, Only Aunt Victoire and Aunt Adelaide survived the Revolution? What fate did Aunt Sophie meet? Was she captured by the Revolutionaries?


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Madame Sophie died in the mid 1780's, of natural causes. V-A will have the details.

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Indeed, Madame Sophie died on March 2nd 1782, at 1.30 a.m.). She was 48. She had an edema, and she suffered enormously. This is why she never knew the revolution, but her grave (and her sisters' graves: Elisabeth, Henriette and Louise-Marie) was sacked and destroyed by the revolutionaries.

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A gallery of the pictures of Madame Sophie:

Madame Sophie at the abbey of Fontevraud, in 1747, by Nattier. She was 13 or 14 years old.

Madame Sophie as a vestal virgin, in 1748, by Nattier. To my mind, it is a copy by Nattier's studios, from the picture of 1747.

Madame Sophie with a score, in 1763, by Drouais. She was 29.

Picture of Madame Sophie, from Drouais. It is a copy by Drouais' studios, from the picture of 1763. Detail.

Madame Sophie, sitting with a score, from Drouais. An other copy from the picture of 1763.

Mesdames Sophie, Victoire and Louise, as muses, by Drouais. I think that this picture was painted in the 1760's. Detail.

Madame Sophie in 1780, by Anne Vallayer-Coster. The princess was 46.

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