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Comtesse Marie-Josepha de Provence
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Author:  tbullock [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Comtesse Marie-Josepha de Provence

Hi everyone,

Just wondering if any of you know who the Comtesse de Provence's lovers were (if she had any). I especially interested in the ealier years of her life (before 1780 or there about)


Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Comtesse Marie-Josepha de Provence

Hello, I don't know about her, but this is a good website about her life:

Author:  Vittoria Francesca Savoia [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:09 pm ]
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There is a mistake in the website... the father of the Countess cannot be Victor Amadeus II, as he died in 1732! I think se was the daughter of Victor Amadeus III.

Perhaps I have a booklet with some portraits of the young Countess of Provence and of the Counteff of Artois.

I have to check in my book collection :wink:

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:35 pm ]
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Yes you're rigth! :?

Author:  Vittoria Francesca Savoia [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:27 pm ]
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Et voilĂ ! I found the portrait of a very young Countess of Provence. A copy of this portrait was also sent to France in order to present the young bride to her future husband and relatives. The portrait was painted in Turin by G. DuprĂ  and it is shown in the hunting palace of Stupinigi (in the surroundings of Turin)

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:54 pm ]
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Thank you for this beautiful portrait Vittoria Francesca Savoia! :D

Indeed we recognize the future physical characteristics of Countess of Provence! Especially the mouth, the chin and nose! :D

Author:  Vittoria Francesca Savoia [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:40 pm ]
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Yes... but the Countess of Provence was always descrbed as a quite ugly woman, in these portrait I find her pretty! Perhaps the piedmontese court used this picture as "wedding advertising" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:46 pm ]
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She was especially reported to be hairy, to never bathe nor use scented waters, which offended Mercy !

Author:  Vittoria Francesca Savoia [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:53 pm ]
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I've read that the French ambassador in Turin asked to Vittorio Amedeo III, her father, to beg her for washing teeth and face :D

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:57 pm ]
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Oh my God ! :shock: Could it be true ? I hopes this was a legend... They said that, we she arrived in Versailles, she had never bathed...

Author:  Vittoria Francesca Savoia [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:01 pm ]
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Yes... it is true, the letters are in the archives :shock: :shock:

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:02 pm ]
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OOOOPPPSSS... poor count Provence... :shock:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:20 pm ]
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Ah it was not easy to have physical defects during this time... the rumours and the exaggerations went quickly :?

Author:  Arietta [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:43 pm ]
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Wow! Thanks for the portrait!

Author:  tbullock [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:36 am ]
Post subject:  Ugly or not!

The picture is beautiful thanks for putting it up. Though she's not particularly attractive I don't think she was ugly. I would also imaging that the courtiers could be quite harsh when it came to beauty as that was practically the only asset (besides sewing and music etc) that a woman could have. I would imagine being at court would be a bit like being in Hollywood where thin and ugly are often used on people who are just normal.

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