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Author:  CrY [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:18 pm ]
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Somebody can say the style of Versailles?
I know that this period what characterized by the neoclassicism thanks to the discovers of Pompei and other classical sites..yes versailles was built before but somebody can talk aout the style of this period?
thank a lot
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Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:41 am ]
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I know that firstly it had a very baroque style. Louis XV redecorated all the château I think...

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:50 am ]
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The most of it is barocco, with all these dorures. Later would come Louis XVI style, inspired by Antiquity. We should call it Marie-Antoinette style, for she contributed a lot to it. She was in constant contact with her sister Carolina, who lived in Naples, were they just discovered Pompei and Herculanum. This style is lighter, with more lines and less arabesques. But it's less straight than empire style that would come later. I just adore Marie-Antoinette style !
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detail from her meridienne in her little cabinets of Versailles
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detail from her cabinet doré, also in her pivate appartments in Versailles.
We can see these delicate paintings on the walls that recall Pompei frescos.

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:53 pm ]
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Yes, I love it too! It's a style more soft, and less magnificent...I think that's "more down to earth"! In the time of Louis XIV and Louis XV, the luxury was to much! In Marie Antoinette's time it was luxurious but at the sime time lighter as you say.

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:49 pm ]
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Precisely ! I also love the reminiscence of Antiquity. I visited Marie Caroline's cabinet in Capo di Monte, Naples... It was just like some kind of chamber of Pompei ! So beautiful !

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:59 pm ]
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I love Marie Antoinette's style, but the Napoleonic is one of the best of all times! It's a continuity to the Antoinette's greek-style... The clothes of Josephine and Madame Tallien are so soft! In the 80's, Antoinette had less formal clothes.

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:01 pm ]
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Author:  Pimprenelle [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:07 pm ]
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Well... I prefer Marie-Antoinette style... Honest, I mean ! :wink: It's a miracle of balance. I think empire style is too straight, too serious, that it had lost this extraordinary balance between barocco and antiquity.

But isn't it normal ? Napoleon had so many things to prove ! To begin with legitimating his putch ! :wink:

Author:  Louis XVI [ Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:21 pm ]
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Yes, I also prefer Louis XVI style as opposed to baroque, or rococo, Pimprenelle.

The Louis XV style is sometimes too curvacious (although Madame Pomadour's petit appartments are beautiful!) and the later Empire is also too serious and perhaps a tad too 'masculine'(for lack of a better word.) Marie-Antoinette's taste is just right, and her appartments (boudoirs, cabinet, etc.) are perfection. :)

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Author:  Louis-Charles [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:53 pm ]
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For those who are interested, by visiting for a new time the Internet site of Versailles, I saw that a 3D modeling is available for a dynamic visit. :D
I tested and it's really well done! We can move freely by means of the mouse!
(it is just necessary to download the plugin Virtools but it is done very quickly) :wink:
Here the site :

http://www.gvn.chateauversailles.fr/fr/index2.html

Author:  Monsieur Andre [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:36 pm ]
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I hate it when people always mix up the Baroque and Rococo eras. They tend to use Baroque to describe both.

Author:  Elk [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:09 pm ]
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Well if I was asked in a quiz I'd have leant automatically to Rococo to describe Versailles

Author:  jimcheval [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:10 pm ]
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Monsieur Andre wrote:
I hate it when people always mix up the Baroque and Rococo eras. They tend to use Baroque to describe both.

Unfortunately, there seems to be no authoritative distinction between the two. In fact, some say that Rococo is only late Baroque:
http://en.mimi.hu/architecture/rococo.html

As for what exactly Versailles represents, you'll find conflicting answers out there on that as well.

Author:  Elk [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:42 am ]
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Well to say there is no distinct difference is to deny some of the differing motivations that run through them. Baroque is much more rich and darker, a focus on dramatic contrasts of light and dark and exploring the theatre of humanity.
Rococo is much more devoted to studies of light and pattern, exploring ornamentation styles and has that lighter quality often mistaken for pure frivolity.

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