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Author:  Lilly [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:02 am ]
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A little off this topic, but did someone say Fragonard and Vigee-LeBrun??
I just took these pictures at the Legion of Honor in San Francisco......

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Author:  Lilly [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:05 am ]
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The Fragonard is called "Useless Resistance"

Here's the Vigee-LeBrun - these paintings are part of the permanent collection at the Legion of Honor.

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Author:  Ludy [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:07 am ]
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Lilly wrote:
A little off this topic, but did someone say Fragonard and Vigee-LeBrun??
I just took these pictures at the Legion of Honor in San Francisco......


Well, to be honest, these are the kind of masterpieces I'd rather see hung against the wall of a French museum. So sad so many of our masterpieces were bought by foreign museums in the USA or in Russia, it seems like you need to cross the ocean to learn about the French XVIII century ... And we have so little left here !(

Author:  baron de batz [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:20 am ]
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So true!

The best 18th century French art and furniture I've ever seen was in the States or in Russia!!

New York and St Petersburg!

Author:  Ludy [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:21 am ]
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baron de batz wrote:
So true!

The best 18th century French art and furniture I've ever seen was in the States or in Russia!!

New York and St Petersburg!


As Reagan would say "here you go again" !

Author:  Lilly [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:18 pm ]
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Ludy wrote:
Well, to be honest, these are the kind of masterpieces I'd rather see hung against the wall of a French museum. So sad so many of our masterpieces were bought by foreign museums in the USA or in Russia, it seems like you need to cross the ocean to learn about the French XVIII century ... And we have so little left here !(


Yes Ludy, I agree. It is a shame the French allowed these masterpieces to be dispersed in such a manner. But, at least many works have surfaced and have been donated to museums and are slowly coming into the public view. For so many years much has been in private collections. I can tell you of a home not far from me which possessed some panels made for Madame DuBarry, wall sconces from Versailles among various other 18th century French art and treasures. I find the stories of these aqusitions very interesting. I'm happy that at least we know where these things are housed - even if it's not in France. In a perfect world everyone would possess their own historical treasures........I'll bet the Italians want their Mona Lisa back too, but it isn't likely the Louvre will ever hand it over.

Author:  Ludy [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:11 am ]
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Lilly wrote:
Ludy wrote:
Well, to be honest, these are the kind of masterpieces I'd rather see hung against the wall of a French museum. So sad so many of our masterpieces were bought by foreign museums in the USA or in Russia, it seems like you need to cross the ocean to learn about the French XVIII century ... And we have so little left here !(


Yes Ludy, I agree. It is a shame the French allowed these masterpieces to be dispersed in such a manner. But, at least many works have surfaced and have been donated to museums and are slowly coming into the public view. For so many years much has been in private collections. I can tell you of a home not far from me which possessed some panels made for Madame DuBarry, wall sconces from Versailles among various other 18th century French art and treasures. I find the stories of these aqusitions very interesting. I'm happy that at least we know where these things are housed - even if it's not in France. In a perfect world everyone would possess their own historical treasures........I'll bet the Italians want their Mona Lisa back too, but it isn't likely the Louvre will ever hand it over.


That's amazing ! I must say I have always resented Madame du Barry for having turned down the masterpieced Fragonard had painted for Louvecienne. As far as I read about this story, it is not entirely clear why she refused them. It might be that she felt targeted by this sensual style, which was anyway no longer fashionable. But to me, these are definitely Fragonard's finest paintings.

Here is my favourite :

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Author:  Délicate fleur [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:42 pm ]
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Gorgeous!

Yes, there are some Fragonard pieces here in Australia, as well. I think there is also a portrait of one of the Mesdames Tantes.

Author:  ines [ Mon May 28, 2012 4:09 pm ]
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Does anyone else go Saint-Cloud?

Author:  baron de batz [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:27 am ]
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Well I have been there a few times. The terrace of the Château and some of the garden layout still exists. Most interesting of all is the "Grande Cascade" or fountain, which is still in working order and I think is made to work at certain fixed times during summer weekends, I think around 15:00, with accompanying music.

Author:  ines [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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baron de batz wrote:
Well I have been there a few times. The terrace of the Château and some of the garden layout still exists. Most interesting of all is the "Grande Cascade" or fountain, which is still in working order and I think is made to work at certain fixed times during summer weekends, I think around 15:00, with accompanying music.


thank for your answering!
one more question :oops: :oops: ,if i want to see some MA's relict(such as clothes, furniture..anything else ),which museum i can visit?

Author:  baron de batz [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:10 am ]
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The best for that is the Musée Carnavalet here in Paris.

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