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Marija Vera wrote:
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Perhaps surgeons or doctor's records if they exist?

From them I know about Louis XIII early days, from a doctor record that was quoted in one book.

What did it say?


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I have posted that on the topic The Real Versailles. I will find that post and repost it here. :biggrin:

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Marija Vera wrote:
I have posted that on the topic The Real Versailles. I will find that post and repost it here. :biggrin:

Alright :]


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Here it is (sorry for the poor translation, I have translated this lines from the book literally)-

From the day he was born (Louis XIII (1601-1643)) to his 27th birthday Heroard was holding a pen (feather) as his first physician………No other text will show that physician's honesty: little body, head and face particularly changed because the bad terms of nourishment, bad nurses’ milk, giving him baby food to early (first was given to him on the 14th of October, he was only 17 days old), poor and unadjusted hygiene. Baby not pleasant to see, that is how little Louis XVIII appears in everyday descriptions of Heroard, with swollen eye-lids, “blemish on the skin” and “lichen” on his face, “leaking” behind his year, “spots”, “mange” (!?) that in January had “covered his whole head like a crown”……………………….However physic hygiene is not satisfying at all, the child was wiped, but did he lave, did he bath at all? In the first year of his life we find the word lave appearing only once, only once the word bathed …………During the following years, beside everyday notice “fixed hair, got dressed”, there are no words about completer hygiene at all. He washes his hands after every meal, on what is referring remark “clean hands”. “The court is incredibly dirty”, writes Philippe Erlanger. In Herorad’s Diary nothing denies this statement.

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Marija Vera wrote:
Here it is (sorry for the poor translation, I have translated this lines from the book literally)-

From the day he was born (Louis XIII (1601-1643)) to his 27th birthday Heroard was holding a pen (feather) as his first physician………No other text will show that physician's honesty: little body, head and face particularly changed because the bad terms of nourishment, bad nurses’ milk, giving him baby food to early (first was given to him on the 14th of October, he was only 17 days old), poor and unadjusted hygiene. Baby not pleasant to see, that is how little Louis XVIII appears in everyday descriptions of Heroard, with swollen eye-lids, “blemish on the skin” and “lichen” on his face, “leaking” behind his year, “spots”, “mange” (!?) that in January had “covered his whole head like a crown”……………………….However physic hygiene is not satisfying at all, the child was wiped, but did he lave, did he bath at all? In the first year of his life we find the word lave appearing only once, only once the word bathed …………During the following years, beside everyday notice “fixed hair, got dressed”, there are no words about completer hygiene at all. He washes his hands after every meal, on what is referring remark “clean hands”. “The court is incredibly dirty”, writes Philippe Erlanger. In Herorad’s Diary nothing denies this statement.

Interesting, Thank you Marija!


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You’re welcome; I wish I knew more about the days of Louis XVI, these writings are not encouraging at all, even we are talking about the early 17th century. :(

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You’re welcome; I wish I knew more about the days of Louis XVI, these writings are not encouraging at all, even we are talking about the early 17th century. :(

I do too. :[


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I am presently dating one man who knows history very well (he studies it) so I may ask him unless the question is not too much for the third date! :lol:
I am joking, I will try to find out something more. :wink:

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I am presently dating one man who knows history very well (he studies it) so I may ask him unless the question is not too much for the third date! :lol:
I am joking, I will try to find out something more. :wink:

No more engagement? :oops: :cry: :evil: :x :shock: :help: :disgust: :banghead: :argue: :angryfire: :angry5:


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I don’t see the ring on my finger yet! :idea:

Comte, you are the love of my life, I would never cheat on you! :angel5:

:king: :queen: :love:

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I don’t see the ring on my finger yet! :idea:

Comte, you are the love of my life, I would never cheat on you! :angel5:

:king: :queen: :love:

Awh(: yay!
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:wave:

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Atleast now Versailles has public restrooms.
Unfortunately that occupy apartments... :evil:


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Better that than using a chamber pot behind the paravan (screen).
That system with chamber pots must have been very unpleasant.

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Better that than using a chamber pot behind the paravan (screen).
That system with chamber pots must have been very unpleasant.

Indeed. :drunk:


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