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Author:  Pimprenelle [ Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:46 pm ]
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but how coud they put rags down there if they wore no pant type underwear?

Some sources say that women wore panties on these specific periods.

Author:  Monika [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:57 am ]
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Thank you pimprenelle

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:20 am ]
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Interesting, thank you for enlightening us once again Pimpernelle!

Author:  Monsieur Andre [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:00 am ]
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Pim, what do you mean by "panties?" I know that what most people think of as historical underwear, "bloomers," were not invented until the 19th century, so I cannot conceive of any type of modern equivalent being worn by 18th century women.

Author:  Elle [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:33 am ]
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Marija Vera wrote:
I have seen an article in one women magazine, there I read how women in that period didn’t wear anything but used to bleed all over those beautiful dresses. I also read, in the same article, statement of one doctor (1750. or 1760.) who said how women must wear long wide dresses that can let air, because women genitals slowly mutilate, foil (not sure this is the right word, I couldn’t find right translation in the dictionary) and stink awful. :?


Actually, I've been thinking about what the "Doctor" said all week. How horrible, how demeaning is the very origin of the gown! I have wondered why women wore big wide dresses, while men have worn pants, I really came to the assumption that women were not showing the shape of their body out of modesty.. not for the "medical" reason of having genitailiala that was progressively rotting. How smug for men to have come up with that about women. Women lived with that "Knowledge" too! That truly was sad Marija Vera, and an eye opener for sure.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:45 am ]
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It may have not been a way to make men superior, there was not all that much medical knowledge, perhaps even good doctors may genuinely believed that was the case. Who knows? In medieval times they thought placing an owl on your head would cure you of insomnia!

Author:  Délicate fleur [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:01 am ]
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Hellou_Librorum wrote:
In medieval times they thought placing an owl on your head would cure you of insomnia!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Marija Vera [ Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:10 am ]
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Elle wrote:
Marija Vera wrote:
I have seen an article in one women magazine, there I read how women in that period didn’t wear anything but used to bleed all over those beautiful dresses. I also read, in the same article, statement of one doctor (1750. or 1760.) who said how women must wear long wide dresses that can let air, because women genitals slowly mutilate, foil (not sure this is the right word, I couldn’t find right translation in the dictionary) and stink awful. :?


Actually, I've been thinking about what the "Doctor" said all week. How horrible, how demeaning is the very origin of the gown! I have wondered why women wore big wide dresses, while men have worn pants, I really came to the assumption that women were not showing the shape of their body out of modesty.. not for the "medical" reason of having genitailiala that was progressively rotting. How smug for men to have come up with that about women. Women lived with that "Knowledge" too! That truly was sad Marija Vera, and an eye opener for sure.


They obviously couldn’t connect it with the bad hygiene. I really can’t understand that, that lack of common sense.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:52 am ]
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They probably thought their genitalia were rotting because it possibly smelt like it. :shock:

Author:  Marija Vera [ Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:31 pm ]
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Yes, but because natural process, not poor hygiene. (!?)

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:20 pm ]
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Do you mean it's the natural process, however poor hygiene didn't help it? :|

Author:  Délicate fleur [ Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:00 am ]
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How is it a "natural process" if there is a rotting odour? A healthy woman's 'undercarriage' is meant to be fairly odourless and quite clean.

Author:  Marija Vera [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:17 am ]
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I mean that doctor, who had said that women must wear long wide dresses which can let air because their genitals are slowly rotting and that cause stanch, meant that that was natural process, something normal not caused by bad hygiene or something else. I want to say that he related stench with rotting genitals (!?) not poor hygiene that was thought to be beneficial for your health.

HE meant it, certainly not I/me.
He has lived in 18th century.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:05 pm ]
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Thank you for the clarification there! :)

Author:  Marija Vera [ Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:16 pm ]
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It is nothing. Sorry for misunderstanding. :D

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