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Author:  ShaktiValkyrie [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:59 pm ]
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I am currently reading Marie-Thérèse Child of Terror and I was very surprised to learn that the Queen came very close to death after the birth!
It says,
Quote:
"The King exuberantly grabbed his daughter and carried her in the air, proceeding into a larger antechamber for the baby's baptism. While crowds of people followed the King, the Queen, who was by this time completely ignored by all, convulsed then slipped into unconsciousness. She knew neither weather her baby had survived, nor what sex it was. Although Marie Antoinette had established a signal with her good friend, the Princess de Lamballe, to inform her immediately, of the baby's gender, the princess got swept along in the crowd, had no time to deliver the news before the Queen lost consciousness, Lamballe was supposed to say in Itlian, 'Il figlio e nato', if it was a boy, or 'Una figlia e nata', for a girl. From the midst of he crowd, Lamballe, overwhelmed with emotion, mistakenly declared, 'La regina e andato!' (The Queen came!) and promptly fainted."
( :lol: )
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"The Marquise du Deffand wrote to her friend Horace Walpole that the Queen had actually bled from her mouth before anyone noticed her dire condition, and, after a few minutes, during which Marie Antoinette almost perished , the chief surgeon grabbed a knife and sliced into her foot, causing it to bleed and the Queen to revive."


I can only imagine what the commotion would have been like with hundreds of people there, but for the doctor or any of her ladies not to stay with her was horrible! Even in those times! While no where near a doctor, I do consider my self a little medical savvy (you learn a lot over years of living with bad chronic pain!). Bleeding from the mouth would indicate internal bleeding, why would slicing her foot open help? I would think they would have just given her body another place to bleed out from. Anyone here have any thoughts on that? :?

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:24 am ]
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Poor Antoinette! That must be terrible, to be in pain, possibly dying while people are watching this madness? How degrading and sad!

Author:  annies sis [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:53 am ]
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I agree!

Author:  Therese [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:28 pm ]
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They sliced her foot open because in those days bloodlettiing was common medical practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodletting

Author:  ShaktiValkyrie [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:15 pm ]
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Very true, it's scary to me to think about how common it was. I can understand the thought process behind it ,but wow, they used it as if it were a "cure all" if you will. Thanks for the link, I now see why her foot was chosen. That's what I was really confuse about. In my opinion it is a miracle that survived!!

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:27 pm ]
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People also did it for cosmetic reasons. The reason being is to look paler.

Author:  annies sis [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:09 pm ]
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wow, i didnt know that.....

Author:  amelia-marie [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:06 pm ]
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Hellou_Librorum wrote:
People also did it for cosmetic reasons. The reason being is to look paler.

whoa, that's a bit drastic

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:30 pm ]
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I assume they did it if the lead did not work in the cosmetics, the mercury, or the arsenic ( possibly) then they were bled. I assume it might have been a last resort. Or it could be an "added" benefit to feeling weak, etc.

Author:  Artois [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:09 pm ]
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The body was considered one big germ depository with bacteria, disease and other maladies entering through the skin. This is why bathing was frowned upon; it opened the pores and that, they thought, facilitated the entrance of disease into the body.

The act of bleeding they felt purged the body of some of the accumulated disease.

Author:  annies sis [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:53 pm ]
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Yes I have heard that. I can't imagine how pleasant that smell must have been well into a French summer. :D

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