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Count Axel von Fersen and Marie Antoinette?
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Author:  baron de batz [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:24 pm ]
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The best books I have read were in French, but I would recommend Nesta Webster's 'Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette" two tomed biography, as others here would too. If you can find it! Once you've read that, you'll be well armed!

Author:  annies sis [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:49 pm ]
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I would really like to read that, sounds interesting

Author:  COMTESS DE PROVENCE [ Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:23 am ]
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axel is quite handsome :love: and louis took a while to "come from his shyness" :oops: .if i were marie, i would "befriend" :wink: fersen. :love:

Author:  annies sis [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:37 pm ]
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haha, befriend? nice lol

Author:  jimcheval [ Sat May 29, 2010 3:35 pm ]
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Well. there's a new book in the works, but here's how the NY Times tags it:
Quote:
Francine du Plessix Gray is writing a book about Marie Antoinette’s lover, the Swedish diplomat Axel von Fersen.

Not "putative" lover. Lover. I wonder if even du Plessix Gray makes that claim.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/books/review/Gray-t.html?pagewanted=2&ref=global-home

Author:  annies sis [ Sun May 30, 2010 9:04 pm ]
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Very interesting, and yes, it is very odd that they said 'lover' instead of something a little more discrete.

Author:  Marie Josephe [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:53 pm ]
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I say the whole affair never happened! No sex, mabe a hidden love, but NO sexual relationship!

Author:  annies sis [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:56 pm ]
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I agree that she probably adored Fersen as a dear friend and that she would have never wanted to hurt her beloved husband, Louis, however; I like to think about the idea that maybe she loved Fersen but perhaps never acted on it other that through friendship. Thoughts?

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:57 pm ]
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As in a platonic relationship? Possibly.

Author:  baron de batz [ Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:06 pm ]
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Well I've never personally thought their relationship to have stayed purely platonic.

Author:  annies sis [ Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:08 pm ]
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Perhaps...I imagine them to be very close friends sharing their deepest darkest secrets with each other. Then again, who will ever really know...

Author:  Woodland Nymph [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:14 am ]
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I too see Fersen and Marie as very deep friends, perhaps with some romantic undertones simmering beneath. Personally, I have never understood the fascination with their relationship; perhaps it all has to do with the fact it may never be known whether or not they were ever lovers, not for certain. But I've always been more interested in the relationship between Marie and Louis XVI myself.

Author:  baron de batz [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:33 am ]
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Well I think what interests everyone is to know whether the Queen of France committed adultery or not!

Kings were allowed presented mistresses, Queens were just expected to keep quiet and produce heirs! The relationship between MA and Louis XVI is only really interesting as a study of marital problems! :)

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