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Author:  Baronne [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:04 am ]
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Bonjour tout le monde! :)

I am currently watching a french documentary on Marie-Antoinette and i learnt a new details i never knew about. In fact, it is said that when Marie-Antoinette was detained at the Conciergerie, there was a plot called ''le complot de l' oeillet'', the Carnation Plot. One night, a mysterious man dromped and carnation in M-A's cell and in the flower's petals there was a message which informed the queen about a last attempt to save her. She then wrote an answer on a piece of paper with a pin but the message was intercepeted by the revolutionaries. This event will be used against her at her trial.

Does anybody have further information on this plot?

Author:  Drake Rlugia [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:23 am ]
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Alexander Dumas wrote a novel about this plot, called the Le Chevalier de Maison-Rouge.

I've never read it, but Dumas historical fiction is quite good and can provide some details.

Author:  Anouk [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:17 pm ]
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Baronne, you can read about this plot in Zweig's book that is not the best on MA but I like it because of its copious style!

This man you've told about was Alexandre de Rougeville and was let into the Conciergerie by Michonis, a prison inspector. Rougeville dropped a carnation behind the stove while he was visiting Antoinette... You know, what happened then: she found the message but her answer was detected... Michonis was guillotined, Rougeville moved to Reims where he died in 1814. ... Rougeville -about Rougeville ... 00090a3887 -about Michnois -here you can download Le chevalier de Maison-Rouge by Dumas, it is French

Author:  reine [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:03 pm ]
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I've read about this in Stefan Zweigs book Marie Antoinette

reine :angel6:

Author:  Monika [ Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:31 pm ]
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Right now I'm reading The Last Days of Marie Antoinette ( my sister's Christmas gift to me) and it talks quite a bit about the plot..It is really interesting,I highly recommend that book.:)

Author:  Baronne [ Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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Thank you so much! I'm currently reading the memoirs of Mme Campan on Marie-Antoinette.

Author:  baron de batz [ Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:15 pm ]
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I have seen the tiny scrap of paper on which Marie Antoinette replies to M. de Rougeville 'je me fie à vous, je viendrai"....I trust you, I will come. It is written in pinpricks, she had no writing material. Emotive scrap of paper :( ...I saw it at the National Archives, the wonderful Hotel de Soubise, PARIS 4th district.

Author:  Anouk [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:17 am ]
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We have to see it by any means! If it was be exhibited in the Conciergerie, I'd seen it... :(
Whatever, here is a good reason why to go to Paris again!

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