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Author:  Elle [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:02 am ]
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Yes Ray that was a very good post. Valois is played by swank, she is wanting the title and property back, If I remember right. And Marie Antoinette Disregards her, steps on her letter, the people of the court laugh at her clothes. but for some reason, It was particularly unwatchable. It was so sparsely furnished, then the costumes looked as if they were the cheap wax museum kind. at the scaffold MA sees her own lined face in a water puddle under the guillotine! there was no basket, only gravel and a puddle. For some reason Valois father is taken from the house and killed, house burned? I do wonder why too. Maybe I will rent it again.

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:22 am ]
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Elle wrote:
Yes Ray that was a very good post. Valois is played by swank, she is wanting the title and property back, If I remember right. And Marie Antoinette Disregards her, steps on her letter, the people of the court laugh at her clothes. but for some reason, It was particularly unwatchable. It was so sparsely furnished, then the costumes looked as if they were the cheap wax museum kind. at the scaffold MA sees her own lined face in a water puddle under the guillotine! there was no basket, only gravel and a puddle. For some reason Valois father is taken from the house and killed, house burned? I do wonder why too. Maybe I will rent it again.

I am afraid to watch it.
The members of court were so cruel.

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:36 am ]
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Actually, I take that back, I want to see it, but it shos MA being rude to de la Motte, and to Rohan.
Joely Richardson has the face.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:14 pm ]
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Ray wrote:
Yes, it was very real. As far as I know it was an evil orchestrated by a vicious woman who hailed from the disgraced House of Valois and called herself 'de la Motte'. She suffered a most ignominous ending in London years later falling from an upper storey while trying to climb out the window to avoid her English creditors. It is said that she died in agony days later...(So, there is some satisfaction in that I suppose) In order to fully appreciate all sides of the tale, I imagine it would do one some good to investigate the history of the Valois and why Louis XV felt it necessary to strip them of their titles and property. I may be completely wrong about this, but I think that I read years ago that they (the Valois) had built a magnificent chateau that was the inspiration for Versailles. Marie Antoinette herself said that 'calumny' would be their (the Bourbons) undoing and in this, she was precisely correct. There is a movie about the diamond necklace affair with Hilary Swank, but I have not seen it as it seems to be anti-Antoinette and this would just irritate me. I hope I have helped.



It may not necessarily be the family, it might just be her. She was high enough to be at court however not to how she wanted to be. And in order to prevent such an incident he stripped them of their titles.

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:29 am ]
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De La Motte, was forbidden from court and went under an assumed name.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:27 pm ]
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What name did she go by?

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:04 am ]
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She was Jeanne Valois-Saint-Remy.
She married a Comte de LaMotte.
She went under that name, but rumors already were going around about a Valois at court.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:03 pm ]
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Thank you Comte.

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:08 am ]
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Welcome.

Author:  Lady Sparrow [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:57 pm ]
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Question - forgive me if it's in the wrong thred - why wasn't the Diamond Necklace Affair featured in Coppola's movie adaptation? Surely it was one (of the many) major events in Antoinette's life?

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:23 pm ]
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That is an excellent question.

Author:  Rosalie [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:08 pm ]
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We've being wonderinf that for long :lol: It's actually one of the major faults of the movie according to me. Probably Coppola focused more on the first period of MA's life and tried to summarized the last one.
Yes, it was a major event in her life, and it's a pity the movie doesn't portray it. The affair was very important in fostering the queen's impopularity and some see it as the actual start of the revolution.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:28 pm ]
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I see it as the start of the start of the Revolution.

Author:  Délicate fleur [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:15 am ]
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It is strange, how come we suddenly hear of the Fall of the Bastille? Why? Why would that happen? It was all so sudden. Then we move on to the beginning of the Revolution. The Diamond Necklace Affair is very complex and would need time in the movie to explain, but the 1938 version was good enough in including a mention.

Author:  Hellou_Librorum [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:27 am ]
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Yes. At least they didn't gloss over it.

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