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I read the same about Nicole Legay's physical appearence. Except for her teeth. The police report only mentions that Mme Legay had "strong teeth". They don't specify anything about her teeth resembling the queen's or not.

From this description of Nicole Legay, we could imagine that Marie Antoinette could have strong teeth too. Her second son had "rabbit teeth growing on his strong Habsburg jaw". Maybe he had inheritated this from his mother.

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I have read that she had her teeth pushed and prodded when she was in Vienna too though I've no idea how successful dental treatment in the 18th century would have been. I suppose they might have used braces .. they are hardly complex equipment.

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I read that she ideed had braces, but her dentist in Vienna also extracted a lot of teeth. Later on, Marie Antoinette's dentist in Versailles waxed indignant at it.
In Versailles, the Dauphine shrank from brushing her teeth in the very first years (as well as wearing her corset). It certainely was just a childish tantrum, because she was notoriously quite keen on hygiene.


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I don't know the reason why she would not accept to brush her teeth ? Maybe they were still sensitive after all those treatments and brushing hurt her ? :shock:

About her corset, Marie Therese proposed her to send corsets made in Vienna for French ones were too strong and uneasy to wear. So, obviously, Antoinette refused her corsets in Versailles for they hurt. Finally, she head too, especially because it really was necessary for her back.

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I think Marie-Antoinette was very childish when she arrived in Versailles, like a lot of children, she was loath to brush her teeth before going to bed !
As for the corset, I know that in the 18 century they were really unpleasant, since they squeezed the whole stomach and pushed back the shoulders (grazing the armpits, so that women had to tuck cloth in it). It was totally unbearable ! Marie Antoinette went so far as to making out that women didn't wear corset in France in order to avoid it ! :lol: I didn't know it solved her back problems though.
I read that later on, Marie Antoinette was addicted to her corset, and even refused to give it up when she was pregnant of Sophie in the first months ... :shock:


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Indeed, she had baks problems, one shoulder went higher than the other one. With regards to this specific problem, corsets could be used as medical ones. Mery mentions this in his reports to Marie Therese. So, corsets, for this growing up girl, would be a physical necessity more than a beauty fashion.

Finally, the dauphine accepted to wear it. But I guess she never appreciated French "corps de baleines" and preferred lighter corsets, she could wear with mousseline dresses.

Later, she would constantly wear a corset, you are right. But I think it was a corset that concerned her waist more than her chest. Her measures after her last pregnancy were 58 cm (waist) for 109 (chest), that is a very interesting ratio !

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Marie-Antoinette really did not like the large ornaments, the large official dresses, the corsets… she did not like all the constraints of this type.
Therefore she liked the dresses "en gaulle" after 1780, because they combined rafinement and simplicity :D

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Mais cest une fixette ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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:lol: :lol: Ouais je les adore ces robes d'abord!! :lol:

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I read that later on in her life.MA's waist measured 40 inches without the corset of course.She could squeeze her waist into a 58 cm corset, but she preffred the "gaulle" dresses because they were more "forgiving" to her figure....


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