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Author:  Monsieur Andre [ Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:17 am ]
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They see a comparison because they do not know who MA really was.

I doubt that a person like this:
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will ever feel the same things as that of a person like this:
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I actually found a much worse picture that even better illustrates my point but I didn't post it because I thought it too innapropriate. Here is the link:
http://howardlindzon.com/wp-content/upl ... ton_03.jpg

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:11 pm ]
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i agree, and the picture you did not post, ahaha, it just proves the point. honestly.

Author:  Rosalie [ Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:26 pm ]
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Marie Antoinette and Paris Hilton?
NO WAY!!!!!
I agree, it's just ignorance...these people don't know who MA was. By the way, I tried to visit the forum, but unluckily I can't understand French... :oops:

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:52 pm ]
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rosalie, you might try using the google translator, my friends in italy use it to understand my french!

Author:  Rosalie [ Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:09 pm ]
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Well, I tried, but without much success...it always say there's some error and I can't go inside the single topics. Anyway it's funny to see "Chou d'amour" translated as "cavolo d'amore" :wink:
Actually I understood something...it just takes me a lot of time. I had a look at the discussion about the Queen's will and I totally agree with you, it seems really absurd to deny the authenticity without any serious basis...
And I appreciated the posts by Pim and Chou, precise and passionate as usual!

Author:  Trianon [ Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:11 pm ]
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PersephoneMediocris wrote:
Locks of Louis wrote:
Elizabeth wrote:
Moose, there is a topic here already talking about this, check it out! It states that there is no DNA evidence.


Well, actually Deborah Cadbury's book The Lost King of France says that DNA testing on a heart that is said to be the Dauphin's has mitochondrial DNA consistant with Marie Antoinette's family line. Mitochondrial DNA is passed by the mother to all her children, so it doesn't necessarily prove 100% that the heart is of Louis XVII, but it doesn't seem it could be anyone elses because I think Louis Joseph's remains are all ready accounted for.


If that's true, then why do so many people still think it's not really him? I admit the situation is a little fishy (especially how they wouldn't let his sister near the body) but DNA rarely makes mistakes.



People believe anything if they feel strong enough for the subject. Elvis is seen on a regular basis, JFK is alive and well, and even Marilyn Monroe have been spotted now and then.
The horrible fate of Louis XVII is more than we can comprehend, and therefore some will find support in the idea that he got away. I am sorr y to say that he did not. Deborah Cadbury's book was extremely well written, and I have to say i wept a few times. Being a mother of three, I can only imagine Louis' horror, and MA's horror.

Author:  Therese [ Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:29 pm ]
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Hi, Trianon! Yes, Cadbury's book is excellent and a real tear-jerker. The book explored the DNA tests in detail. The tests proved that the heart belonged to the child of a Habsburg princess. There is a very high chance that the princess was Marie-Antoinette, although there is not really any way to prove that beyond the shadow of a doubt. So the heart, which was allegedly taken from the boy who died in the Temple on June 8, 1795, is indeed presumed to be that of Louis XVII. Therefore it can be pretty much taken for granted that Louis XVII was the boy who died in the Temple. But it cannot be proved with 100% certainty.....

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:16 am ]
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id like to add to all the other posts that there is a movie out called,
"Marie Antoinette; Queen of Versailles."
made by the delta entertainment corporation.

the facts,as the call them, are repulsive.
i found myself shouting at the television set!!
they state that;
-she DID say let them eat cake.
-saying she pretended to be alot of things at the hamlet and so on.
most things stated in this film are awful.
has anyone else viewed this film?

Author:  Rosalie [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:35 pm ]
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No, I haven't heard of it. When was it made?

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:17 pm ]
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Well, I don't know, I left it at home, I'm in florida now. Hmm, ill look it up later on and let you all know :]

Author:  amelia-marie [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:05 am ]
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Can anyone roughly translate what this site said? My french is horrible.

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:38 am ]
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Which site Amelia?

Author:  amelia-marie [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:49 am ]
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whichever one everyone's been ranting about? are their more than one? sorry, i really have no idea.

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:46 am ]
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amelia-marie wrote:
whichever one everyone's been ranting about? are their more than one? sorry, i really have no idea.

If you read the first post in this topic, It about sums it up.
Basically, these people are idiots and dare say our saint of a queen, is less.

Author:  Ludy [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:31 am ]
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Personnally, I think this letter is authentical, judging by the handwriting which seems to be similar to the queen's other letters and the very content of the letter, which is, to me too emotional and personal to be totally made up. That's said, a few historians, not only the members of this site, question it. In the exposition Marie Antoinette I indeed read that, as Pimprenelle stated it, the letter was written in an imperfect French. For those that are knowledgeable about the queen's personal correspondance, was she used to committing mistakes in her letters ? What are those mistakes that Pimprenell deems typical of hers ?
What's more, it seems that the letter was handed over to Fouquier Tinville, through several other persons. Isn't it possible that the letter was modified ? Why did Fouquier Tinville refuse to give Madame Elizabeth the letter, considering it didn't include any political consideration ?

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