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... especially when wearing big converse ! :lol:

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Pimprenelle wrote:
... especially when wearing big converse ! :lol:


Funny -Very Good! :lol: (ugly pink ones too)

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*hides the pink converse she owns* :lol:


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Yes, I don't think that Marie Antoinette was quite as beautfiul as people make her out to be. I mean, first of all, we have many variations on her physical apperance by different artist, at the paintings by Vigee Le Brun, for instance, in my opinion, make her out to be quite plump. And then there is the painting of her with her children by the Swedish artist, and I actually think she looks rquite unnatractive, really. I'm not saying she was completely homely, but I don't think she was as beautiful as, say, Queen Alexandra or Empress Elisabeth.

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According to the Baron de Besenval, Marie-Antoinette was not the most beautiful woman of Versailles, but she was most gracious… her face was pretty but not exeptionnel.
But Marie-Antoinette had an enormously charm. The portraits of Wertmüller, Duplessis, Drouais, Kucharsky and Dagoty were more realistic :D

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I simply love these tow portraits: The first one was painted by Martin van Meytens in 1767-1768. M.A. was only 12....

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The second one, painted by Périn-Salbreux shows the young Dauphine dressed with a magnificent pale blue dress... :wink: :wink:

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Ah I love them too Vittoria Francesca Savoia thank you! :D

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She was so noble even if she was so young... *envy* :D :D

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Yes, beautiful portraits! I agree that her beauty was much enhanced by her personality, soul, gracefulness...that portraits could not possibly capture completely. :wink:


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You know what I noticed? There is a picture of one of MA's sisters (I believe it is either her immediate older one) that was painted aroudn the same time as the large one above, and her sister is wearing the same dress as MA is wearing in said portrait. I find this very odd, why would the two sisters be sharing clothes? :?

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Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:37 pm
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Indeed, it is a portrait of Marie Caroline (Carlotta - Charlotte), Marie Antoinette's elder and dear sister, who was 3 years older. They adored each other and looked alike. They could be dressed up alike.
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Later, Mme Vigee Lebrun would notice how uch they resembled each other :
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Actually, that wasn't the portrait I was reffering to, but good observation, Pim! The one I was reffering to was yet another portrait of Maria Carolina:

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Notice how this dress looks even more similar to this one, of MA's :

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than this one does:

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I don't think they are the exact same dress, but rather two or three different ones made in a similar style or by the same person. I'm guessing all the royal children had their clothes made in the same place?

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Meytens carried out similar portraits with people who resemble each other. And for the dresses, it was a fashion of the time :wink:

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I don't know about the other archdukes and archuchesses, but it is famous that Marie Caroline and Marie Antoinette were often dressed up alike.

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Wow, I haven't seen the 'older' Maria Carolina portrait before. She is very like MA isn't she! Thank's, Pimprenelle, for posting this.

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