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Marie had a very gentle face.

Which one ? All these Habsburg girls are called Marie ! You have to use their own names ! For instance, Marie Antoinette is Antoinette. Marie Charlotte is Charlotte (they would later say Caroline).


I assumed you knew.
This forum is about Maire Antoinette.

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We strive for historical accuracy. :wink:

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No, precisely... For, when you say "Marie", it actually is impossible to know which archduchess you mean.

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She was splendid.. Blonde around 166 cm.tall with ocean blue eyes and large brests... She had full lips.. portrait which show her the closest she look its now in Vienna.. She was really young..

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I don't think she was the most beautiful of the archduchesses, Marie-Christine was considered as a beauty as well as Elizabeth (before her disease). But she certainely was the most charming and feminine.
I've always wondered too about her hair, but I never thought about red hair being unfashionable, but it seems quite a convincing argument. Marie Thérèse-Raphaëlle, the first wife of Louis XVI's father, was very red haired and was notheless described (and painted) blond haired ! It was only Adélaïde (already very cheeky) who said she was red haired to humiliate her as her beautiful fair complexion was praised. Then it was also the case with Madame Du Barry calling Marie Antoinette "la petite rousse". Anyway, I think Marie Antoinette was blond haired more than red-haired, with a little ash with the time.
As for her eyes, Tilly sayd they were "not beautiful" ( :shock: ), but the portrait show a very soft gaze that is anything but unattractive. I think the colour seems to oscilliate between grey and blue.
As for "Toinette", it was the pamphlets who called her that way (Les Amours de Toinette et Charlot), so it's unlikely she really enjoyed being called that way.


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I agree with you, dear... Marie Antoinette had sweet eyes, that kind of misty look myopia can give you, "almost blue", following Elisabeth Vigee Lebrun.

About her hair, there is more to learn from her own correspondence, she sent locks of her and Louis to her mother and said "Darker are mine", so that we at least know that she had darker hair than Louis. She had a petrified wooden stuff made with those locks, and hers seem quite reddish, indeed...

Paul and Pierrette Girault de Coursac said that Marie Antoinette's hair had the colour of darker veins of an agathe stone :

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Quite beautiful ! :D

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thank you Pimprenelle, that's fascinating !


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iT would be interesting to see a pic
of her mother, say age about 30


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Here is a portrait of her at the age of 30:

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And in her 40's:

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I also wanted to say that considering the Kucharski portraits look so much different than the Lebrun portraits and others painted of her, then we must think that they resemble her the most. Why else wouldhe make them look so different? I mean, look at this one:

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She looks so like her mother, almost identical.

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Oh, I forgot! I found a much larger version of the portrait of her as dauphine, the one which we have only seen little parts of. I wonder, in which room at Versailles was this painted?


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One more, a much brighter version of the Lebrun masterpeice.


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Olivier Blanc considers this painting he published in his wonderful book "Portraits de femmes" represents Marie Antoinette. However, some specialists, who studied Marie Antoinette for years, don't agree with him. I must admit I have great doubts too...

Look at the face, so different from the other portraits Kusharsky made of our queen. The nose, particularly. Look at this dress, then, looking more Imperial style than Revolution.

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Yes, it doesn't look like her so much...the nose, and also the lips,did you notice? They're not "Hapsburg lips", they seem thinner

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However this painting would concur with the description made by many of Marie Antoinette at this time of having aged prematurely in the last terrible years of her life.

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Yes, and look at the resemblance to her mother. Did she favor her father or her mother?

However, I agree with Pim that except for the mob cap, the hairstyle and fichu, the gown has a very Empire silhouette, no something MA would have worn.

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