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Author:  standingonthetop [ Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:35 pm ]
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for your information, I am a woman... :wink:
It's very touching. All that you wrote Pimprenelle. But i just hope you can accept there are many ways to love Marie-Antoinnette, and yours not the only one and better neither.

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:48 am ]
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Of course, lady standingonthetop, of course... :roll: C'est élémentaire !

Author:  Merteuil [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:06 am ]
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Having read this older debate about visiting La Conciergerie or not, I would like to add that, despite the very high possibility of feeling very depressed once there, I want to visit La Conciergerie. I believe places keep memories of people ...especially if those people have felt extreme feelings when in residence. When Marie Antoinette was in La Conciergerie, she must have been at the very depths of pain and the place possibly still can 'communicate' something of her. It's also a place to reflect on the resistance and dignity of an amazing human being faced with so much primitive hatred.
I'm also interested in seing how the queen is portrayed, what comments are on the labels which usually accompany any exhibit: that could give us clues as to how Marie Antoinette is perceived in today's french society.

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:45 am ]
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I completely agree with you, Marquise... and that's why I am so afraid of visiting the conciergerie. I experienced so sweet feelings in the gardens of Trianon... I fear those still impegrating the stones of the conciergerie.

However, like you, I know that, sooner or later, I would have to go there... and just let it happen...

Author:  Merteuil [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:17 pm ]
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It certainly cannot be a happy visit :(
But we should all pluck the courage one day...

Author:  baron de batz [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:17 pm ]
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Madame Pimprenelle,

Should you ever decide to visit the Conciergerie, I would be most willing to escort you and to offer you my arm en cas de défaillance....however it would have to be a lunch hour or after work visit!

Baron de Batz

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:49 pm ]
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Trop tard! :lol:

Author:  baron de batz [ Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:06 pm ]
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I have just been to visit the Conciergerie during a (ahem) somewhat extended lunchhour. Yes its true I am trying to win the March prize for the most obsessive MA person here!!! I'm a bit like that, once I find something new, I'm 100%, but I've got to last the pace over time like some notable contributors here!!!

Anyway I thought I'd share my impression with you. Basically a little disappointed, however with a bit of imagination and help from a taciturn but finally informative guard, I got quite a lot out of the visit. The entrance is not the same (sorry I don't understand how to put pictures/maps on here, otherwise I'd do it) as in MA's time. However I took a look across the out of bounds 'cour de mai' (now the préfecture de police) to where the entrance used to be, and could clearly make out the steps going down to the iron grill as portrayed in the famous royalist painting of MA being led to the tumbril. Anyway once in the former prison you go through the enormous mediaeval salle des gens d'armes to the revolutionary prison. There are a few small reconstruction rooms for the concierge (guardian) and the registrar (greffier) who noted the names of all new inmates. Then you go up to the first floor, the steps must be the same as our Queen took, nice and old and worn with an dark iron railing. Everywhere there are iron doors with thick bolts and iron bars. Th emain thing is the chapel where one finds exact location of MA's cell. The whole thing had been redone and tarted up during the restoration under Louis XVIII, but the back bit of the chapel is MA's cell. I couldn't really make much of it until I asked the guard. There's a tiled floor which is basically the original floor covering, and Louis XVII created a kind of altar to MA which hides where the door to the cell and the grill for the watching officer would have been. They have broken through what would have been the back wall of the cell to connect with the chapel. The only window, now stain glassed with a MA insignia (you know her famous MA overlapping), doesn't open but gives onto the "Women's courtyard", through which other female prisoners would sometimes harangue or encourage her. This is described in Belaiche-Daninos' book "76 days at the conciergerie". In this courtyard there is a lavoir dating from this time where the ladies could wash their linen and a small round stone table like a mushroom on which they would have eaten their food. The guard informed me where the bed would have been, as well as the fact that the ceiling had been lowered. Its a fairly lifeless place, you feel like she was already half dead on arrival, her soul is not there, only the trace of her tears. The reconstruction room, showing what her cell would have looked like furnished is a waste of time. I bought a rather expensive "fleur de lys" cushion cover which was really rather beautiful...now I have to explain that away to any guests!!

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:12 pm ]
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Thanks for sharing, baron ! :D If you want to post pictures from another site or even from your computer, you can use this site :
http://imageshack.us/
Use "url" for another site or "file" for your computer. It is very easy ! :D I just enjoy using this site ! :D

Author:  baron de batz [ Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:42 pm ]
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so I go onto this site you gave me, I search for an image on Internet with the browse function, then I "host click it", then I go on this site and choose lmg and connect with the other site, bring up the image I want to download and click on it?

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:51 pm ]
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I'll do it with an example... :?
I want to post a letter of Antoinette from my computer. I go on ImageShak, then browse and host it. The image appears on the site. By clicking on it, I can enlarge it.

Then, I ask for "propriétés" by using the right button of my mouse. I select the new url of my image (right button of my mouse) :
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7728 ... estdi2.jpg

I copy it here. I select it, and click on "Img" right here above. The address now appears so :
Image
Now, I can show my image ! :D
Image

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:15 pm ]
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Ben voyons juste cette image je comprends pas :lol:

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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:lol: Je l'adore !!!

Author:  markizimara [ Mon May 21, 2007 3:22 pm ]
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Yes it is really sad.. I saw it 2 times and I was depressed all day.. :cry:

Author:  agila13 [ Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:38 pm ]
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Just a question... I visited Le Conciergerie twice and did not find the last letter MA wrote or any other writing paper she may have written there.
Victoria Francesca where was it??? Don't tell me I should visit it again :?

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