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Author:  Moose [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  So who was guillotined?

Apologies in advance if this is a morbid topic :) but I realised yesterday that there are some key members of the royal household whose fates I do not know. Who was guillotined and who escaped? Someone just confirmed for me that Elisabeth went to the guillotine.. what of Clothilde? Madame du Barry lost her head. The Princess de Lambelle lost hers too although at the hands of a mob, not the guillotine. The Mesdames escaped didn't they? IIRC Axel de Fersen was killed by a mob some years later. What happened to the Comtesse Jules? What happened to Madame Campan and her husband? I presume that she lived as she survived to write her memoirs .. where did they go?

Author:  Elizabeth [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:08 pm ]
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Mme Campan escaped, which has been stated only due to the fall of Robespierre. She lived in the end of her life at Mantes and died in 1822. Her Memoires sur la Vie privee de la Reine Marie-Antoinette published the year after her death. Of course, Madame Royale survived and her story is very much worthy of further reading. :wink:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:12 pm ]
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I believe that Clothilde died of disease....

Author:  Elizabeth [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:38 pm ]
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In another post Louis-Charles writes:
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Mrs Clotilde (1759 - 1802) was born in Versailles in 1759, girl of the Dolphin Louis de France and Marie-Josèphe of Saxony, and grand-daughter of Louis XV. That which one called “Large Madam” was raised by Madam de Marsan with her young sister, Elisabeth (born in 1764). She lost her father in 1765 and her mother in 1767. In 1775, she married the prince of Piedmont, elder Charles-Emmanuel IV of Sardinia, wire of Victor-Amédée III of Sardinia. They did not have children, but very dependent, were linked by a solid piety and a sincere faith.
She became queen of Piedmont-Sardinia in 1796. The Revolution was perceived like a calamity in Turin. In 1789, Clotilde had the joy of re-examining her brother the count d' Artois, left in emigration with her family. But she had the pain to lose her brother Louis XVI in 1793 and hes Elisabeth sister in 1794. She revives her aunts, Ladies, girls of Louis XV, left in emigration in 1791. She died in 1802.

Author:  Moose [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:48 pm ]
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1802.. she didn't have a very long life then, even by the standards of the day (though longer than her unfortunate brother and sister in law).

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:55 pm ]
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Ah exact thank you Elizabeth! :wink:

Author:  doritmi [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  mesdames tantes

I read in a book about Robespierre that the two surviving Mesdames tantes were caught when they tried to flee to Rome and were guillotined in 1793. surprisingly, Robespierre spoke against their execution.

Author:  baron de batz [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:10 am ]
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I never heard of their being caught....are you sure of your information? I thought they died a natural death.

Author:  doritmi [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  certainty?

Not completely - the article in which I read it was a defense of Robespierre, and the issue was raised just to show he was more humane than his adversaries (debatable). I have not seen other references. can anyone else help?

Author:  Arietta [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:53 pm ]
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Could you please give the article citation (info)?

Author:  Moose [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:54 am ]
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Um, I am fairly sure that that's incorrect - as far as I am aware they escaped to Naples and were given sanctuary by Antoinette's sister Caroline.

Author:  Jules de Polignac [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:31 pm ]
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I know some people who were guillotined:

ROYALTY:
- Louis XVI;
- Marie Antoinette;
- Madame Élisabeth;

NOBILITY:
- Marie-Thérèse de Choiseul-Grimaldi, princesse de Monaco;
- Charles ALexandre Marc, prince de Hénin;
- Charles Hector, comte d'Estaing;
- Philippe de Noailles, duc de Mouchy;
- Louis Philippe d'Orléans, duc d'Orléans;
- I'm not sure if the princesse de Chimay was guillotined;
- .......

Author:  Marie_Antoinette [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:30 pm ]
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I wish that marie antoinette didnt get her head choped off I mean she did not diserve it she was a nice and buetifull woman.I mean her friends problilly one of her friends escaped I think it was sohie and one of them had there head chopped off.

Author:  Hans Axel [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:45 pm ]
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There is a website with a list of people who died during the revolution, it is in alphabetical order so it is easy to search for names. http://les.guillotines.free.fr/ It also says how they died...

Author:  Comte de Provence [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:

Jules de Polignac wrote:
I know some people who were guillotined:

ROYALTY:
- Louis XVI;
- Marie Antoinette;
- Madame Élisabeth;

NOBILITY:
- Marie-Thérèse de Choiseul-Grimaldi, princesse de Monaco;
- Charles ALexandre Marc, prince de Hénin;
- Charles Hector, comte d'Estaing;
- Philippe de Noailles, duc de Mouchy;
- Louis Philippe d'Orléans, duc d'Orléans;
- I'm not sure if the princesse de Chimay was guillotined;
- .......

I will look into Chimay, I had always thought she lived...

As far as Mesdame Tantes, they lived out their days in Italy.
So they were NOT guillotined.

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