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yes, indeed! he had a very amazing aura, I suppose, because of his knowledge.

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i think of the 3 Artois was the best looking but MA would have chose Louis XVI over im because besides his looks her,like his brother, was insainly jealous about not being able to be king.and really who wants to marry a guy like that??

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I don't think Artois was that jealous. Provence was, definitely. He had libelles written and printed in order to destroy his brother's reputation. He kept repeating he was the best and, when his brother finally had a son, he wrote a letter to Gustav of Sweden clearly admitting this was terrible for him.

Artois was light, playful, amusing and terribly shallow. He had horses and mistresses and spent a lot of money for them as well as for clothes and houses. He also was extremely generous for his friends, Vaudreuil, for instance, and loyal to them. When he fell in love with Louise de Polastron, his heart was definitely hit, and he kept faithful to her.

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Why was Louis chosen to be a king?? I don’t know for the age of his brothers, was he the oldest child or the king Louis XV loved him the most? From his youth he didn’t show many great abilities to be a leader like his brothers who seemed very ambitious, smart and power loving (with premises of venom (Provence)).

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He was just the eldest son after his elder brother died when still a child.
The rules of succession were very strict, it was always the first born who became dauphin.
Louis's elder brother, the first dauphin was considered very bright, like an ideal prince, and when he died his parents made Louis feel a sense inferiority, that seems to have affected the future king. :cry:

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I don't know... Louis was more balanced and calm than he would had felt inferior, hadn't he?...

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Rosalie wrote:
He was just the eldest son after his elder brother died when still a child.


and his fater louis XV was his granddad

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Thank you.

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You are welcome, Marja Vera :D

Actually,I think he was not so balanced...I mean, he had a lack of confidence, and some think that it was due, among other things, to that sense of inferiority. But of course, it's always very difficult to determine this kind of things...one can always say anything!

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And it's also difficult to feel what that "poor man" felt :shock: You are right, he had been driven to very hard decisions.

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I think he was a good person but an awful king. That position required some very hard decisions and huge responsibility, sense of leadership and strategy – I think he lacked it. He wasn’t very decisive and he could be influenced very easily + the lack of confidence.
That was terrible for the situation in France in the 18th century.

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I don't think he was an awful king in general: in a period of peace, he would have been considered like a mild, wise and gracious sovereign. He was th wrng king fir his time, because the times required a man capable of making difficult choiches, and Louis was too indecise for that.

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Rosalie wrote:
He was just the eldest son after his elder brother died when still a child.
The rules of succession were very strict, it was always the first born who became dauphin.
Louis's elder brother, the first dauphin was considered very bright, like an ideal prince, and when he died his parents made Louis feel a sense inferiority, that seems to have affected the future king. :cry:


Actually it was his father Louis Ferdiand who died, not his elder brother. Louis XVI was the eldest of the children of his parents, Louis Ferdinand and Marie Josephe of Saxony.

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Louis' elder brother the Duc de Bourgogne died in 1761 at the age of ten.

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Rosalie wrote:
I don't think he was an awful king in general: in a period of peace, he would have been considered like a mild, wise and gracious sovereign. He was th wrng king fir his time, because the times required a man capable of making difficult choiches, and Louis was too indecise for that.


Here I wouldn’t agree with you dear Rosalie, at least not completely as almost always :wink: . In the time of peace any king is great. Every time has got its difficulties and the time of Louis XVI was particularly bad. I afraid he didn’t do much to make a situation better – by that I mean significant big decisions that are necessary to make the best out the situation. Louis XIII and Louis XIV were able to choose the right advisers, to surround themselves with very clever and useful people. Louis XIV enjoyed in a great luxury, his politic had required a great amount of money. And he managed to choose the right associates (think about Colber).

In history we remember the kings mostly by their accomplishments and the things they had done for their state. Because that we say Catharine the Great or Ivan IV the Bad (Terrible) or for some other rulers The Weak and so on. From the historical point of view I find Louis XVI a weak king. As I said I think he was a good man but that is not something that really counts in the world of politics. Some other qualities are more significant. :|

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