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Author:  Elizabeth [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:09 pm ]
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What was the relationship of Louis XVI 's sisters to Marie-Antoinette? And what was their fate during the revolution?

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:29 pm ]
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When she arrived to France in 1770, Marie-Antoinette appreciated the youth of Elisabeth who was still child .
She loved this little calm and discrete girl . But they were not attended much I think…
During the revolution, Elisabeth wanted to follow her brother, Marie-Antoinette really appreciated this gesture. However, Elisabeth was very close to the ideas of Artois and she wished a counter-revolution from the external of France carried out by Artois and Provence: what Marie-Antoinette did not want. Elisabeth was radical and wished the strong manner to stop the revolution.
Marie-Antoinette written in one of her letters that she avoids of too much speaking with Elisabeth because if not they disputes about policies where their ideas were different.
Thus they were very good friends, except in policy :D

Author:  Elizabeth [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:32 pm ]
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Merci, Louis-Charles! Elisabeth was Louis XVI only sister?

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:50 pm ]
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No Louis XVI had 2 brothers : Provence and Artois (He had a big brother too the "Duc de Bourgogne" but this one died when he was young), and Louis XVI had 2 sisters : Elisabeth and Clotilde :wink:

Author:  Pimprenelle [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:50 pm ]
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Clothilde was called "gros madame" ! :lol:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:57 pm ]
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:lol: Exact!
La pauvre petite... :wink:

Author:  Elizabeth [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:17 am ]
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Please tell us more about Clothilde! I know a tiny bit about Elisabeth, but none of Clothilde. :wink:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:52 am ]
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Here a summary oh the Clotilde's life :

Mrs Clotilde (1759 - 1802) was born in Versailles in 1759, girl of the Dolphin Louis de France and Marie-Josèphe of Saxony, and grand-daughter of Louis XV. That which one called “Large Madam” was raised by Madam de Marsan with her young sister, Elisabeth (born in 1764). She lost her father in 1765 and her mother in 1767. In 1775, she married the prince of Piedmont, elder Charles-Emmanuel IV of Sardinia, wire of Victor-Amédée III of Sardinia. They did not have children, but very dependent, were linked by a solid piety and a sincere faith.
She became queen of Piedmont-Sardinia in 1796. The Revolution was perceived like a calamity in Turin. In 1789, Clotilde had the joy of re-examining her brother the count d' Artois, left in emigration with her family. But she had the pain to lose her brother Louis XVI in 1793 and hes Elisabeth sister in 1794. She revives her aunts, Ladies, girls of Louis XV, left in emigration in 1791. She died in 1802. :D

Clotilde was in Versailles even more discrete than her Elisabeth sister….it is to say :lol:

Author:  Elizabeth [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:26 pm ]
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Merci beacoup Louic-Charles :D You are a gem! So Clotilde did not have much influence on Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette?

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:38 pm ]
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De rien chère Elizabeth! :wink:
No you're right, Clotilde did not remain a long time in Versailles, because she left in 1775…thus Marie-Antoinette had few truths contacts with her… :D

Author:  Vittoria Francesca Savoia [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:55 pm ]
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Louis-Charles wrote:
Here a summary oh the Clotilde's life :

Mrs Clotilde (1759 - 1802) was born in Versailles in 1759, girl of the Dolphin Louis de France and Marie-Josèphe of Saxony, and grand-daughter of Louis XV. That which one called “Large Madam” was raised by Madam de Marsan with her young sister, Elisabeth (born in 1764). She lost her father in 1765 and her mother in 1767. In 1775, she married the prince of Piedmont, elder Charles-Emmanuel IV of Sardinia, wire of Victor-Amédée III of Sardinia. They did not have children, but very dependent, were linked by a solid piety and a sincere faith.
She became queen of Piedmont-Sardinia in 1796. The Revolution was perceived like a calamity in Turin. In 1789, Clotilde had the joy of re-examining her brother the count d' Artois, left in emigration with her family. But she had the pain to lose her brother Louis XVI in 1793 and hes Elisabeth sister in 1794. She revives her aunts, Ladies, girls of Louis XV, left in emigration in 1791. She died in 1802. :D

Clotilde was in Versailles even more discrete than her Elisabeth sister….it is to say :lol:


I know that she was afraid that her future husband could be terrified by discovering her real physical looks (as she was quite fat... in Versailles she was called "Gosse Madame Chlotilde :? :? )... but the prince of Piedmont when met her just said "I find you adorable" :D :D

A real gentleman, isn't it? :wink: :wink:

Author:  Louis-Charles [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:08 pm ]
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but the prince of Piedmont when met her just said "I find you adorable"


Really? Ah I did not know! But indeed It's very nice and gentleman! :wink:
Even if “Adorable” does not want to say “charming” :lol:

Author:  Therese [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:43 pm ]
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Clothilde has been declared a Venerable of the Church.

Author:  Therese [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:46 pm ]
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Here is an article about Madame Elisabeth - it has been posted elsewhere already I think, on another thread....


http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2006/1 ... otten.html

Author:  Elizabeth [ Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:40 am ]
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Therese writes:
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Clothilde has been declared a Venerable of the Church.

Therese, what does this mean and why has she received this honor?

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