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I suppose the lice were larger then? Or their fingers had more dexterity. How I wish they came to that conclusion! If you will copy their style perhaps pickup their hygiene habit too! :lol:

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ew dont gimme nightmares!
ive never had lice! :D


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Thanks God you didn’t! :lol:
Do you know something more about interesting habits or facts from the 18 century?

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There is text that they would do that in 15th on the Mayflower, and it would get so bad occasionally that men would have to shave their beards off. And I suppose not having facial hair was vulgar.

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oh man.
Marija, im sure you know tht they did not have deodorant so they smelled heavily of perfume and some people complained that it was sometimes hard to breathe.


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I would have some one reek of perfume than that of bodily odors. I would appreciate the attempt to cover one's odors than not doing anything at all.

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I agree.
I want to believe that they were cleaner then we think...
Maybe they used to bath at least once a week. Also there were many ways to clean your teeth. Hm...Catharine the Great had spent a lot of time in her private bathroom with her lover, maybe it was not so uncommon to have your own bathroom with running water. I have read that the hygiene in the 18th century much improved after the 1750, that's encouraging.
In one diary, one woman (late 17th or early 18th century, I believe) mentioned how she done some charity works in one hospital. One young solder was complaining about the head lice and bagged her to cut his hair. She did that without giving it much thought.

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As a correction I don't think it was lice, they removed it believe it was fleas they picked out with their loved ones. My apologies!

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i would liek to think that too, but i do think that MA bathed alot more than we think.


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So do I. She seems like the type to bathe at least weekly.

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i was thinking daily...


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I am reading one book about the history of private life, from the late renaissance to the end of the 18th century; so far I’ve found many interesting details. When I come to the chapter about hygiene, I will share with you some accurate information. Once a week maybe, but I doubt that anyone bathed more than that – most historians agree that the 17th and the 18th century are among the worst periods in term of physical hygiene. I still hope I’ll prove otherwise! 8)

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oh yes, eveen the egyptian royals bathed on a daily basis.
they had elaborate bathing facilities tooo :D


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I did a little research and BINGO! Interesting text and encouraging news about the 18th century hygiene!
http://www.minuetcompany.org

The demands of 18th century fashion

18th century fashion required a lot of work. Some went to such lengths that the following rather panicky law was proposed in 1770 (but thankfully never passed):
An Act to protect men from being beguiled into marriage by false adornments. All women, of whatever rank, age, profession or degree, whether virgins, maids or widows, that shall, from and after such Act, impose upon, seduce or betray into matrimony, any of His Majesty's subjects, by the scents, paints, cosmetic washes, artificial teeth, false hair, Spanish wool, iron stays, hoops, high-heeled shoes and bolstered hips, shall incur the penalty of the law in force against witchcraft and like misdemeanours and that the marriage upon conviction shall stand null and void.
This law makes it sound as though only ladies were vain, but men were just as careful about their appearance as women, and in some cases more so. Fashionistos called Macaronis were infamous for their eccentric styles, often wearing make-up as the ladies did, and earrings. The name comes from the Macaroni Club, founded in 1760 by a group of young men who had made the Grand Tour of Europe, of which Italy was the high spot.

Make-up

Ladies (and Macaronis) had a range of cosmetics at their disposal. White lead powder mixed with egg white could be used to give a fine, pale complexion, although ladies taking the waters at Bath were warned that 'those who use white paste as a cosmetic are liable to have skins turn entirely yellow' from the vapours of the springs. Rouge was made from lead paste and carmine. Lips were tinted with coloured plaster of Paris. Eyebrows were blacked with lead or with green vitriol and gum Arabic, although artificial eyebrows of mouse-skin were also available to be glued on. Unfortunately the heat of the ballroom sometimes caused them to slip. Small patches of black taffeta or velvet were also worn on the face.

Hygiene

Contrary to popular opinion, people did wash carefully. Although bathrooms were rare, bathtubs were not, and water was piped into the houses of the rich. Bedrooms were furnished with washstands, and soap was plentiful, with 63 soap factories in London (Pears famous transparent soap was created in 1789).
Lord Chesterfield, who wrote copious advice by letter to his illegitimate son Philip, wrote in 1750, 'In your person you must be accurately clean, and your teeth, hands and nails should be superlatively so.' He advised the daily cleaning of teeth with a sponge and tepid water. Nonetheless, it was common to lose teeth, and ladies might wear 'plumpers' of cork inside their cheeks to avoid the sunken cheeks that this caused. No woman would admit to wearing them, however, and they were sold under the counter.
Soot was used as a dentifrice, as was lemon juice mixed with burnt alum and salt. Mouth washes were used, made of wine, bramble leaves, cinnamon, cloves, orange peel. Gum lacquer, brunt alum and honey infused in hot ashes. Decayed teeth could be drilled with a hand-drill and filled with tin, lead or gold. Dentures of ivory, bones, or wood were available, and set with teeth of ivory, porcelain, or even real human teeth. The prototype of the modern toothbrush was invented in 1780 by William Addis.

Hair

We remember the 18th century as a time of ridiculously elaborate hairstyles, but in fact it was only after 1770 that ladies began to wear their hair high, bulking it out with pads of wool and false hair, or arranged it over a frame, adding ribbons, flowers and feathers. Contemporary cartoons show us exaggeratedly complex styles, but one anecdote is true: at the French court, it was briefly the fashion to wear a model ship in the hair, in celebration of a famous naval victory.
Powdered hair had been in fashion since 1715, and only went out of fashion in 1795 when William Pitt put a tax on it. It was initially used sparsely, but worn more thickly after about 1750. Probably it helped disguise any differences of colour between a lady's own hair and her pads of false hair. It was made of starch, sometimes tinted with colouring, and applied over hair which had been oiled to help it stick.

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I managed to solve Comte de Provence’s and mine dilemma…how women used the bathroom in the 18th century. :oops:
First, complicated full dresses, gowns had been obviously worn only in special occasions. Women of upper class had worn in house much simple dresses and fashion of antic Rome and Greek was also very modern back then.
While researching about the 18th century (I am not obsessed with the 18th century, I am going to study history so I like to know as much as I can, I will need it for my studies) I found the picture I posted bellow. I’ve wondered am I allowed to post this, it's the 18th century pornography but still I wanted to share with Comte de Provence my discovery. So if you find this picture very offensive and vulgar I will remove it immediately, I know it is. I didn’t want to provoke but only to share my scientific discovery.

This woman is using a bathroom while man is watching.
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