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Author:  jimcheval [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:00 am ]
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I couldn't find an appropriate topic for this, and maybe others know additional examples. But for now....

I was at the Getty today and they have a Marie-Antoinette Action Figure. With a pop-off head. :)

There's also a Van Gogh Action Figure with easel, paints, etc. And an alternate head for after he cut off his ear.

But I'm sure the first will be more popular here. Oh, and it has an alternate dress.

Anyone some other like toys?

Author:  Lilly [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:12 am ]
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How ghastly! Wouldn't Marie Antoinette be horrified to see what has become of her memory. The figure itself could be OK, but the pop off head is taking it a little too far!

Author:  Lilly [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:03 pm ]
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By the way Jim, I do love your picture!

Author:  Adrienne [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:02 am ]
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I have one of these dolls, a friend gave it to me some years ago. In addition to the head 'popping off' her court dress comes off, as does her wig. It is in somewhat poor taste, however I have discovered my cats have a liking for chasing the head around the room once someone has pressed the button and caused it to fly off. :)

Author:  Marija Vera [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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I really don’t like them. :angry2:

Author:  jimcheval [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:57 pm ]
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The figure might however be carrying on a period tradition:

Quote:
In 1906 (667)
the Goncourts were quoted, from their 'History of French Society during the
Revolution', to the effect that exiled Royalists used to set up miniature
mahogany guillotines and with these behead dolls representing Bailly, Lameth,
Lafayette, etc. When each head rolled, a purple fluid spilled out in which the
emigrés would dip their handkerchiefs (as some were said to have dipped theirs
in the blood of Louis XVI) - the 'dolls' were actually bottles and the
'blood' was perfume. The writer of this item questions this tale (though the
Goncourts' rigor overall is later defended). The writer also questions tales of
guillotine jewelry and toys, but accepts as true references to a seal showing a
guillotine.

A later writer (1923 (53)) says the seal in question was used by Gateau, a
military administrator. The same writer says that the guillotine 'trinket'
described by the Goncourts must have been made abroad, as were 'guillotine
plates' which were sold to English customers who'd read (probably falsely) that
the Revolutionaries had produced such ghoulish souvenirs. In France itself,
less playful toys of a 'prudent civic spirit' were produced: "little guillotines
for flies, streetlamps on which were fixed, hanged, little cardboard
aristocrats, ."


http://www.chezjim.com/sundries/s23.html#revolution

As for the implied glee of the action, personally it reminds me of things like the campfire song about the Titanic:

Quote:
Husbands and wives,
Little children lost their lives.
Oh it was sad when that great ship went down!

All this lustily shouted out....

Author:  reine [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:22 pm ]
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jimcheval wrote:
I couldn't find an appropriate topic for this, and maybe others know additional examples. But for now....

I was at the Getty today and they have a Marie-Antoinette Action Figure. With a pop-off head. :)


:shock: :shock: I can't believe it!!!

reine :angel6:

Author:  jimcheval [ Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:37 am ]
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Believe it!

This is widely available on-line:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AU11563

The same site includes the no doubt highly dynamic... Jane Austen action figure (cut quill, dip quill, scribble?)

Author:  Anouk [ Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:46 am ]
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I saw that there is a Barack Obama adult size mask for $16.99 :biggrin:

Author:  Leisel86 [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:35 pm ]
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I really wish they would stop mis-quoting her already. Historians have all said that MA never said "Let them Eat Cake," and that it was in fact stated by another French princess years before Marie Antoinette was even born! That stupid action figure---the distributors need to research their historical facts a little better. They make her sound like a criminal!

Author:  Anouk [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:11 am ]
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This is true, but not everybody can see her in historical regard :x

Author:  jimcheval [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:58 pm ]
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Voltaire never said, "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Etc.

With quotes in particular, people get a little too attached to the colorful version to let go of it. But this is also true in history. I was on an e-mail list with some pretty serious scholars of all this and mildly raised some exonerating points about Marie-Antoinette. One man reacted angrily to a defense of "this tyrant" (who never held nor exercised power.) The "cake" (in French it's brioche) quote too closely matches people's image of the Queen for most people to want to hear that it's bogus.

The question of how venal and/or oblivious Marie-Antionette was or wasn't is a whole other one, and a bit complex. The fact is, people want to believe she was the Paris Hilton of her time, just as they want to believe that mainly aristocrats were killed during the Revolution and that all that random bloodshed resulted in democracy (as opposed to, in fact, a military dictatorship.)

There's also the general question of people's education, especially in America, where an expert on education recently claimed that some students think the Holocaust is a Jewish holiday.

So, really, this is one of those instances where it's best to recite the Serenity Prayer.

Author:  Délicate fleur [ Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:52 pm ]
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What a intelligent summary, Jim! Antoinette is still a divisive historical figure and yet I think that today, the general public would not know of her if not for her terrible fate and the complex reasons behind it.

Author:  Leisel86 [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:16 am ]
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jimcheval wrote:
There's also the general question of people's education, especially in America, where an expert on education recently claimed that some students think the Holocaust is a Jewish holiday.


That's true. Alot of the history books used in high schools (at leat while I was still in the public school system) devote so little time to studying any particular topic simply because they aren't given enough time. The same goes for college. There is about a paragraph or so devoted to a particular historical event or person in these history books, so it's a lack of time and lack of education in the history of other countries. We just aren't given a fair amount of it. So unless a student is assigned or chooses to research a particular country or historical event or person, they remian ignorant of the actual facts.

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