Marie Antoinette Online
  • FORUM
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:57 pm



Reply to topic  [ 74 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
 Let Them Eat Cake 
Author Message
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 am
Posts: 370
Location: America
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
who? that MA wouldnt say this.....

_________________
Have hope


Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:18 pm
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:50 pm
Posts: 1681
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
versailles wrote:
annies sis wrote:
i hate this comment! its so fake. she would never say anything like that.

MA? NEVER!
but i must admi, wouldent it be fun to say?!?!
"Your Highness, the pesants have no bread!"
you:"no bread?? Let them eat cake!!!!!!"


well i could enjoy it ........lol


Yes, I like that sentence. I would like to imagine what kind of a person could say something like that. It reminds me on one pope from the history lessons. He had send solders to kill the heretics in one place (In France as I recall) with the words “Kill them all and the God will recognize his”. :o

_________________
If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men. St. Francis of Assisi


Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:21 am
Profile
Royalty
Royalty
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:35 am
Posts: 1064
Location: Australia
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
How awful Marija! Chou, where did you read the definite quote about Madame Victoire and 'Let them eat cake'?

_________________
“Love is the emblem of eternity: it confounds all notion of time: effaces all memory of a beginning, all fear of an end.”
- Germaine de Staël


Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:39 am
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 am
Posts: 370
Location: America
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
i have heard others on the site mention this but i have never heard about it.

_________________
Have hope


Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:05 pm
Profile
Noble
Noble
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:44 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Calgary, AB Canada
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
I've also read somewhere that it was possibly a Queen of Spain that said it once too, as well as Madame Victoire. It could have been in the Queen of Fashion book or the Marie Antoinette The Journey book.

I can't imagine her ever saying that, she was too sensitive to her peoples needs (for example, she had charities set up for some groups did she not?). However, I don't mind when people say that she said it, because it gives me an opportunity to talk about her and explain to them what she was REALLY like!

:bunny:

_________________
"This, Madame, is Versailles"


Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:15 pm
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 am
Posts: 370
Location: America
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
yes, i enjoy correcting people too! lol. i thought it was Maria Theresa of Spain who said it????

_________________
Have hope


Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:00 am
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:44 am
Posts: 250
Location: There among the stars
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
Madame Victoire!? ( well that I could see especially when she was young.) I had read some where and Iam sure you have too, that Marie Antoinette was actually trying to be helpful, as she said the name of a special cake that used less flour than bread, and would save flour in a bread shortage. It was that statement that was twisted in a pamphlet. I really just think the statement was an outright lie. Especially then, as today people believe what they see in print. printing was still fairly new then, a lot of people read these and so then believed horrible things about her.

_________________
Kära du, tillåt mig, med eld i mitt hjärta, att hålla dig varm.


Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:32 pm
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 am
Posts: 370
Location: America
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
o god. i HATE those pamflets! they were constructed of lies! has any one seen them? i saw a bunch in a PBS documentery and they were so discusting! Poor MA had to be going though hell in those days. :cry:

_________________
Have hope


Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:17 pm
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 am
Posts: 808
Location: Le Petit Trianon, France
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
Elle wrote:
Madame Victoire!? ( well that I could see especially when she was young.) I had read some where and Iam sure you have too, that Marie Antoinette was actually trying to be helpful, as she said the name of a special cake that used less flour than bread, and would save flour in a bread shortage. It was that statement that was twisted in a pamphlet. I really just think the statement was an outright lie. Especially then, as today people believe what they see in print. printing was still fairly new then, a lot of people read these and so then believed horrible things about her.

hahahahah i love that

_________________
“There is nothing new except what has been forgotten.”- Marie Antoinette


Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:12 am
Profile
Duc/Duchesse
Duc/Duchesse
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:27 am
Posts: 175
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
The English language has yet to invent such words as would describe what I think of that... Those of you who know me can imagine. It's not good.

_________________
"...little did I dream that I should have lived to see such disasters fallen upon her...I thought ten thousand swords must have leaped from their scabbards to avenge even a look that threatened her with insult."
Edmund Burke, (1790)


Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:26 am
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:32 am
Posts: 294
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
First of all, for non-French speakers, the phrase in French is "Let them eat brioche" (that is, a sweet bread). Presumably, whenever it was translated into English, English speakers were not (as many now are) familiar with this viennoiserie, and so... "cake".

She certainly didn't say it, and in fact the phrase has been traced to an anecdote in Rousseau, as explained in an item on (blush) my site:

http://www.chezjim.com/sundries/s15.html#42

_________________
Jim Chevallier
North Hollywood, CA
http://www.chezjim.com


Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:40 am
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 am
Posts: 370
Location: America
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
Thank you so much for your imput! :D

_________________
Have hope


Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:59 am
Profile
Duc/Duchesse
Duc/Duchesse
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:45 pm
Posts: 186
Location: Germany
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
I read the following about it:

book "Marie Antoinette" from Antonia Fraser

Rousseau in 1737 wrote that the spanish princesse Maria Thersia said once: If they have no bread they should eat "croute" of the pie.

And even the C'omte de Provence wrote in his memoires of 1823 that every time he will eat a paté on croute it will remind him of Maria Theresia an her sentence.

So I definitly believe, that Marie Antoinette never ever said it.

reine :angel6:


Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:40 pm
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:36 am
Posts: 370
Location: America
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
Wow, thank you so much for your imput guys.

I know that this statement should be in movies and TV but....oh well. Has anyone felt that in the Coppola MA movie, with the "let them eat cake" part, that theu actually made the queen look like a monster. still beautiful yes but she looked like a witch.

_________________
Have hope


Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:36 am
Profile
Prince/Princesse
Prince/Princesse
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 pm
Posts: 903
Location: italy
Post Re: Let Them Eat Cake
In the Coppola movie she didn't sayt the sentence...it appear only in a scene whoch was a sort of "fantasy" imagined by the people...So in this sense the movie helped people know the snetence was never pronounced

_________________
Vera incessu patuit dea


Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:52 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 74 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.