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Which biography do you prefer?
Antonia Fraser 38%  38%  [ 11 ]
Stefan Zweig 14%  14%  [ 4 ]
Carolly Erickson 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Lever Evelyne 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
Haslip Joan 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
André Castelot 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
others 31%  31%  [ 9 ]
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Just to give you the reason why I raised this question is that I do think it is essential when contributing to a forum like this to have at least read one biography of the Queen, simply that, or maybe some associated book on the 18th century.

If you want I can put my list as well.

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Prey what did you learn particularly from Marquis de Sade as you read it "for the sake of knowledge" Marija.... :shock:

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Yes, Baron - You are so well versed, I am interested in your readings. There are some things out there that have not yet been translated to English -
and I admire that you have probably read them in French! Me - I can only read English..................


Anouk, thanks! You are an extremely intelligent woman as your posts also show!


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baron de batz wrote:
Prey what did you learn particularly from Marquis de Sade as you read it "for the sake of knowledge" Marija.... :shock:


Well, depends to what you refer baron, but for example I got a bit more positive attitude towards the 18th century hygiene reading a book by Mirabeau, at least he used the verbs as "washing" in a term of body hygiene as something quite usual. And there was very interesting information about some general 18th century attitudes.

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baron de batz wrote:
Just to give you the reason why I raised this question is that I do think it is essential when contributing to a forum like this to have at least read one biography of the Queen, simply that, or maybe some associated book on the 18th century.

If you want I can put my list as well.


Yes please, I'm interested in what you've read! It will be a long list, I presume dear Baron.

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Not such a long list but quality! :lol:

"Marie Antoinette" by Stefan Zweig (twice...)

"Marie Antolnette, l'insoumise" by Simone Bertière

Marie Antoinette et la Duchesse de Polignac" by Natalie Colas des Francs

"Louis XVI et Marie Antoinette, vie politique, vie conjugale" by the Girault de Corsac

"Marie Antoinette" by Hortense Dufour

"Marie Antoinette intime" by Nesta Webster

"Les 76 jours de Marie Antoinette à la conciergerie" by Paul Belaiche-Daninos

"La Reine scélérate" by Chantal Thomas

"La corréspondence de Marie Antoinette" edited by Evelyne Lever

"Marie Antoinette, a journey" by Lady Antonia Fraser

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"Le drame de Varennes" by G. Lenôtre

"Le Roi s'enfuit" by Timothy Tackett

"Le rendez-vous de Varennes" by André Castelot

"Amours sous la révolution" by Jacques Chabannes

"Louis XVI" by Jean-Christian Petitfils

Les mémoires de la Baronne d'Oberkirch

Les mémoires de Marie Thérèse Charlotte

Les mémoires de Cléry

Les mémoires de Mme Vigée Lebrun

"Les massacres de Septembre" by G. lenôtre

"Le Baron de Batz" by G. Lenôtre

"Le chevalier de Rougeville" by G. Lenôtre

"Mme ELizabeth" by Elizabeth Reynaud

"Les enfants du malheur" by Philippe Delorme

"Louis XVII" by Philippe Delorme

"Mémoires of Mme Campan"

"Mme du Barry" by the Duc de Castries

"Derrière la façade" by W.R. Newton

"Marie Thérèse Charlotte" by Susan Nagel

"Portraits de femmes" by Olivier Blanc

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Indeed, it is a very qualitative list. I see there is a bio on Baron de Batz in your list :) Very well!

By your list I became interested in ""Le drame de Varennes" and "Les massacres de Septembre". These are such events in the history of the revolution I am curious about. It's no problem that these books are written in French, I need to improve my French anyway. I must look for them!

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Baron must forgive me for this teasing, if he didnt deliberately provoke it by writing TWICE, but I must say that he personally told me that he never finished Zweig, but skipped more than a half and started some new book! But then again in the same conversation when I spoke about the parents of Louis XVI, how the generation was skipped by death of the son of Louis XV and I also said something about Marie-Josèphe de Saxe, he corrected me, with his usual authority, how Louis XV never had sons and even that the mentioned lady was his (Louis XV) mother :shock: (of course later he denied ever saying the second)! So I may assume that skipping pages, like with Zweig, may be his usual practice. :wink:

(no need to say after this type of error that I briefly looked at the list with a good amount of scepticism :lol: )

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That's good to know
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Well Marija I was of course just keeping you on your toes with those deliberate mistakes and I must say you passed the test admirably! How could you honestly think a man of my learning could make such blatant errors?! :wink: I'm a little disappointed in you... :wink:

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Yes Marja, just like Baron was keeping us on our toes during that walk. Hmmm.................What would we do without our dear Baron?


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Langour in incurable depression....? :wink:

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Ok, such errors can happen :wink: but Zweig, TWICE?? :banghead:

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Marija Vera wrote:

but Zweig, TWICE??


I admit, that knowing you're a regular visitor here, that was my teasing side coming out.... :)

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...but Zweig is great! :D
Did you bore while reading his book?

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