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Monsieur Royale
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Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:48 pm Posts: 467 Location: USA
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Arietta wrote: Jules de Polignac wrote: She adopted two (?) children, one thing that horrified many nobles (and not only). M-A adopted one young boy (can't remember his name) but she nelegected him after the birth of her own children. Eventually the boy turned her during the French Revolution.
He turned on her?
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:23 am |
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Therese
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Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 2266
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Yes, he became a revolutionary.
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:30 am |
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Louis-Charles
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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:09 pm Posts: 1532 Location: France
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And a a revolutionist experienced moreover! 
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:09 am |
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Jules de Polignac
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Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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I think that Zoe went with the royal family to the Tuileries...Am I rigth?
I read that Marie Antoinette adopted a boy, named Armand, a girl named Philippine Lambriquet who was renamed Ernestine Lambriquet...Finally, the Queen also adopted another girl, Zoe...
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:14 pm |
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Pimprenelle
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Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:54 am Posts: 2040
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I don't know about Zoé. But Ernestine did. The whole time till Montmédy, she was there ! Which biographer thinks of her ?
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:17 pm |
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Jules de Polignac
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Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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But didn't Ernestine became a revolutionary?
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:22 pm |
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Jules de Polignac
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Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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Oh no! That was Armand...Armand became a revolutionary, about Ernestine and ZOe I don't know nothing..
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:25 pm |
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Jules de Polignac
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Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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About the resource of the information that Ernestine went to the Tuileries...It was you
«Ernestine went to the Tuileries with the royal family. Few writers notice her presence, however. She didn't escape to Montmedy, and wasn't sent to the temple neither.» in http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index. ... #msg172624

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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:27 pm |
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Therese
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Zoe eventually became a nun. I read somewhere that the queen sent them both away with emigres families - perhaps with the Provences? for their saftety. Ernestine died in exile and Zoe joined the Visitation order. Zoe died at the beginning of the Restoration.
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:33 pm |
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Louis-Charles
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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:09 pm Posts: 1532 Location: France
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Thank you Therese I did not know this infomation 
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:39 pm |
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Jules de Polignac
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Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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Any liasion between Ernestine and the Comtesse des Ténèbres?
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:47 pm |
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Therese
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Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 2266
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No, not in my opinion, dear Jules. One would have to accept that Louis XVI fathered a child out of wedlock.
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:13 pm |
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Pimprenelle
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The idea was suggested by some scholars, anyhow... I sincerely don't know. There is a biography of Madame Royale by Castelot, and also by de Huertas. Very strange...
This site is devoted to Madame Royale, and you'll find discussions about Ernestine-Philippine, on the board :
http://madameroyale.free.fr/phpBB2/inde ... a1da8f02ae
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La Dauphine
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Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:40 pm Posts: 65 Location: Asheville
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 blame
It is a very sad situation when those you kill must be blamed for their own misfortune. All the horrors the Aristocracy suffered were so terrible that the instigators dare not take responsibility for their own action. She was a woman and Austrian. So they hated her.
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Louis-Charles
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La Dauphine
Quote: She was a woman and Austrian. So they hated her.
Morever Marie-Antoinette was more French than Louis XVI... her father François I was from Lorraine. But people retained only her Autrichien blood...
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