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CrY
Duc/Duchesse
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:48 pm Posts: 155 Location: Sardinia (Italy)
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 opinion about Lamballe
As we know Madame de Lamballe had Italian origins: her fathers was italian, meanwhile her mother had german origins (Landgravine von Hesse-Rheinfels Christine); I have read in a biography that Marie Antoinette liked her company because even if it had italian origin and he lived in France he had kept her german dignity. Isn't it?
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:58 pm |
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Therese
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 2266
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Yes, I believe so. Also, Antoinette appreciated Italian language and culture, writing to her sisters in Italian, since two of them married Italian princes.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:07 pm |
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Pimprenelle
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:54 am Posts: 2040
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It's true Marie-Antoinette enjoyed the companies of strangers in the court of Versailles. No doubt because she felt a stranger herself... weren't they so snobbish ? Didn't they mock her accent and her germanisms ?
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:25 am |
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CrY
Duc/Duchesse
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:48 pm Posts: 155 Location: Sardinia (Italy)
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I try to imagine the voice of the Queen talking in french but with a germanic accent!!! Wonderful!! 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:21 pm |
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Therese
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 2266
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Enchanting! But you know the prejudice at the court against Austrians. They had been traditional enemies for so long. Antoinette was seen as an enemy from Day One.
Many princesses in the past had been allowed to keep an entourage with them from their own country, such as Mary Queen of Scots and her Maries. Antoinette was not permitted such a comfort and she was really alone in a hostile court. Louis tried to help her, but he had many enemies, too. One cannot blame her for forming attachments with sympathetic friends who were foreigners as well. Even Mme de Polignac was practically a foreigner, coming from Languedoc, where things were very different.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:25 pm |
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Pimprenelle
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:54 am Posts: 2040
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Madame de Polignac came from Languedoc ? Thanks for this information, dear Therese !
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:48 pm |
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Therese
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:04 pm Posts: 2266
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You are so kind, dear Pimprenelle. Yes, I am fairly certain that is where gabrielle was from in the south of France. She had the charming southern accent of the occitan, I believe.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:23 pm |
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Pimprenelle
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:54 am Posts: 2040
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And also black hair and, as some contemporaries describe her, a dark brow... maybe meaning a rather dark complexion, "southern". 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:50 pm |
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Therese
Prince/Princesse
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Yes! The last time I was in the south of France I saw people who looked like Gabrielle.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:12 pm |
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Victoire-Adélaïde
Royalty
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The estate of Polignac is in the north of Languedoc, in the Velay. But I believe that Gabrielle de Polignac descended from a family of Gasgony, because Polastron is a town in the administrative division of Gers. But it is also in south of France, where people spoke the Occitan. Moreover, Gabrielle was educated in Paris.
I believe that Marie-Thérèse de Lamballe was very sad when her mother, Christine-Henriette de Hesse-Rheinfelds-Rothenbourg, died.
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Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:13 am |
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Louis-Antoinette
Marquis/Marquise
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:47 pm Posts: 144
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I think for Lamballe I think it was her personality that outshined her beauty it made her reveal her inner beauty and you can clear see it in the eyes. Leonardo Da Vinci has said, "The Eyes are the windows to the soul."
I believe strongly that the Duchess Polignac when you look at her face in a portrait, she really does look an angel because she has this elegant face structure that is so innocent but very romantic in a way. I can see why Marie found her to be so attractive in an overwelming way and not a vulgar manner because clearly you can see it in Gabrielle's eyes.
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:47 am |
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Jules de Polignac
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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Victoire-Adélaïde wrote: But I believe that Gabrielle de Polignac descended from a family of Gasgony
I've also read that
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Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:20 pm |
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Therese
Prince/Princesse
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Yes, Gabrielle was from the south of France, and full of charm!!
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Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:36 pm |
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Jules de Polignac
Prince/Princesse
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 pm Posts: 324 Location: Château de Versailles
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:16 pm |
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Therese
Prince/Princesse
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I think the picture is of La Barry. But very interesting all the same.....
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:20 pm |
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